What is Quindos? Like it?

[Wingman]

I am looking at a company that has this software along with Calypso. I want to get a general feel for it by the users. Any info will be appreciated.
Thanks,

[cmmguy]

They say, once you go quindos, you never go back...

[#2#]

An Arabic version of Windows???

[bw_bob]

Quiznos is ok...I've eaten there a few times

[craiger_ny]

How's your thread going Bill?

[Wingman]

I need a beer to sort all this information out!!

[rangerboat72]

We had it on one of our machine's about 10 years ago. I never did learn it but I still have the manuals for it. I remember being told at the time it was a great software for really complex geometry parts like cams and gears.

[Jan d.]

Here is my opinion about Quindos: I think it is fundamentally the best engineered product ever produced. It is head and shoulders ahead of every other application out there, including the Demons. It has been created by a bunch of very clever engineers.

And that is exactly where the problem lies. Because engineers, especially strong headed ones, are not the best to create user-friendly applications... So if you can bring up the patience, resources (it is expensive) and time to really learn Quindos, after some months of sheer agony, you will start to find the brilliance behind it and you will NEVER want to run anything else again, just like CMMGUY said.

Another detail: I think, but am not sure entirely, that Hexagon does NOT own the company that makes Quindos. I think it is produced by Messtechnik Wetzlar GmbH and is sold by Hexagon. Something like the bad old days when PC-DMIS was produced by a company that was not owned by B&S. Always good for sparkly dynamics...

[rangerboat72]

Does anyone know what revision Quindos is currently at? I have 4 manuals from about the 1997-98 time frame and I'm wondering if they are even close to being current...

[Wes Cisco]

Does anyone know what revision Quindos is currently at? I have 4 manuals from about the 1997-98 time frame and I'm wondering if they are even close to being current...

Just offhand I would guess they are probably about 10 years out of date. . .

[rangerboat72]

Just offhand I would guess they are probably about 10 years out of date. . .

I don't think they updated Quindos near as much as the Demon...

[cmmguy]

I don't think they updated Quindos near as much as the Demon...

Probably didnt have to...

[John Kugler]

Well, what Jan D said, just about nails it. I used version 6 for about 2 years. The learning curve is HUGE. VERY tough to learn. It has no, as we know it, graphics display window. Almost all text. Manuals read like Chinese calculus. Training from B&S is almost non-existant, there is just no need for training because nobody uses it. All that being said, it is VERY good stuff, great for gears and splines, etc. As of version 6 it is NOT windows based, its UNIX. That is an issue in itself. Version 7 is supposed to be windows based, but i don't know if it's out yet.

Like I said, GREAT stuff, just tough to learn.
The tech support guys for Quindos are top-notch. VERY smart guy(s).

.02 NTD

[JBCIII]

Version 7 is out we've had it going on two years but don't use it much. Version 7 ( to me) is a cut down version 6 with some graphics and a more user friendly interface. Many of the commands from 6 still exist in 7 but are not documented or on a menu anywhere, if you don't know the commands from 6 you won't find them anywhere. The commands are included for legacy programs. Quindos is a high overhead program - it takes time to do anything but it can do anything. If you need a high end do anything program and have the time/patience it's the best, the standard line is "QUINDOS does nothing for you.". If you're doing standard prismatic shapes with run of the mill characteristics you're better of with PCD or Calypso.
My analogy when explaining the difference to management is PCD is a kit house that you can assemble in a few different ways but everything is precut while Quindos is a toolbox and a forest. Not completely accurate but they seem to get the idea.

Jerome
PCD4.2MR2
QUINDOS 6/7
LEITZ PMMC

[MFCguy]

Q7

I was pushed to learn Q7 about a year ago after using PCD for about 5 years. We bought a new machine and needed to measure interrupted gears. So that was the only software out that B&S had at the time. The software is a whole lot more user friendly than the V6 I was shown in a demo a couple years ago, but it is a pain to find simple commands unless you know exactly where to look through the complex menus. The software as a whole is alright. You have to be able to devote a LOT of your time to be able to grasp it. I was at B&S for a week and that wasn’t near enough time to learn even the basics.