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    I,m trying to write my first program, and not having a easy time of it. I was in Chicago last week for a PC-DMIS cad course. I thought I had a grasp of the principles last week but now I'm wondering about that. My problem is that I have a cylinder bored through with two beveled edges at one end. I need to measure the angle of the beveled surfaces to the end face of the cylinder,and the distance from center line of the part to the edge of the bevels. I did not import CAD file I have done everything manually. The face of my part is my work plane that I leveled to, I set rotation off the center bore and another hole in the face of the part. I set my X & Y origins at the center bore, and Z origin at the face. I have sucessfully measured all other features on the part at both ends of the part. My problem is that when I create a plane (or line I tried both) on the bevels so that I can constuct a line at the intersection of my bevel plane and work plane to measure my distance from center line of the part to the edge of my beveled surface every thing seems fine. When I run the program however it takes one hit and errors out. It tells me unexpected hit. It seems to be taking the hit in the correct location however. I just seems that it is maybe traveling into the face of the bevel to far. Sorry for the long post I wanted to be discriptive. I've included a portion of the program, and attached a pdf of the part.

    Thank you,
    Ken Baker

    Here is the code

    PART NAME : BORED_MOUNT
    REV NUMBER : 1
    SER NUMBER :
    STATS COUNT : 1

    STARTUP =ALIGNMENT/START,RECALL:,LIST=YES
    ALIGNMENT/END
    MODE/MANUAL
    PREHIT/ 0.118
    RETRACT/ 0.118
    MOVESPEED/ 50
    TOUCHSPEED/ 1.5
    MANRETRACT/0.1181
    FLY/ON,0.1181
    FORMAT/TEXT,OPTIONS,ID,HEADINGS,SYMBOLS, ;NOM,TOL,MEAS,DEV,OUTTOL, ,
    LOADPROBE/2MMBALLX30MM
    TIP/T1A90B180, SHANKIJK=0, -1, 0, ANGLE=180
    WORKPLANE/YMINUS
    PLANE1 =FEAT/PLANE,RECT,TRIANGLE
    THEO/27.6128,27.3141,-22.6789,0.0009314,-0.9999994,-0.0006152
    ACTL/27.6128,27.3141,-22.6789,0.0009314,-0.9999994,-0.0006152
    MEAS/PLANE,3
    HIT/BASIC,NORMAL,27.1636,27.3134,-22.1888,-0.0009311,0.9999994,0.0006153,27.1636,27.3134,-22.1888,USE THEO = YES
    HIT/BASIC,NORMAL,27.9125,27.3141,-22.1893,-0.0009311,0.9999994,0.0006153,27.9125,27.3141,-22.1892,USE THEO = YES
    HIT/BASIC,NORMAL,27.7623,27.3149,-23.6587,-0.0009311,0.9999994,0.0006153,27.7623,27.3149,-23.6587,USE THEO = YES
    ENDMEAS/
    ALIGN1 =ALIGNMENT/START,RECALL:STARTUP,LIST=YES
    ALIGNMENT/LEVEL,YMINUS,PLANE1
    ALIGNMENT/END
    CIRCLE1 =FEAT/CIRCLE,RECT,IN,LEAST_SQR
    THEO/27.6044,27.4334,-22.9693,0,-1,0,0.9983
    ACTL/27.6044,27.4334,-22.9693,0,-1,0,0.9983
    MEAS/CIRCLE,3,WORKPLANE
    HIT/BASIC,NORMAL,27.6016,27.4331,-23.4685,0.0061888,0,0.9999808,27.6014,27.4331,-23.4685,USE THEO = YES
    MOVE/CIRCULAR
    HIT/BASIC,NORMAL,27.106,27.4337,-22.9946,0.9984877,0,0.0549752,27.106,27.4336,-22.9967,USE THEO = YES
    MOVE/CIRCULAR
    HIT/BASIC,NORMAL,27.6785,27.4333,-22.4761,-0.1610501,0,-0.9869462,27.6848,27.4333,-22.4767,USE THEO = YES
    ENDMEAS/
    CIRCLE2 =FEAT/CIRCLE,RECT,IN,LEAST_SQR
    THEO/27.6236,27.3104,-23.8283,0,-1,0,0.1964
    ACTL/27.6236,27.3104,-23.8283,0,-1,0,0.1964
    MEAS/CIRCLE,3,WORKPLANE
    HIT/BASIC,NORMAL,27.6174,27.3104,-23.9262,0.1047423,0,0.9944994,27.6133,27.3104,-23.926,USE THEO = YES
    MOVE/CIRCULAR
    HIT/BASIC,NORMAL,27.5256,27.3105,-23.8324,0.9976038,0,0.0691855,27.5257,27.3104,-23.8351,USE THEO = YES
    MOVE/CIRCULAR
    HIT/BASIC,NORMAL,27.6285,27.3104,-23.7303,-0.0842036,0,-0.9964486,27.6319,27.3104,-23.7305,USE THEO = YES
    ENDMEAS/
    ALIGN2 =ALIGNMENT/START,RECALL:ALIGN1,LIST=YES
    ALIGNMENT/LEVEL,YMINUS,PLANE1
    ALIGNMENT/ROTATE_CIRCLE,ZPLUS,TO,CIRCLE1,AND,CIRCLE2,ABOUT,Y MINUS
    ALIGNMENT/TRANS,XAXIS,CIRCLE1
    ALIGNMENT/TRANS,YAXIS,PLANE1
    ALIGNMENT/TRANS,ZAXIS,CIRCLE1
    ALIGNMENT/END
    MODE/DCC
    PLANE2 =FEAT/PLANE,RECT,TRIANGLE
    THEO/0.0103,0,-0.0105,-0.0001684,-1,0.0000545
    ACTL/0.0103,0.0001,-0.0114,-0.0002716,-1,0.0000619
    MEAS/PLANE,4
    HIT/BASIC,NORMAL,0.3889,-0.0001,-0.7803,-0.0001684,-1,0.0000545,0.3891,-0.0001,-0.7814,USE THEO = YES
    HIT/BASIC,NORMAL,-0.3929,0,-0.7633,-0.0001684,-1,0.0000545,-0.3925,0.0001,-0.7639,USE THEO = YES
    HIT/BASIC,NORMAL,-0.3589,0.0002,0.7595,-0.0001684,-1,0.0000545,-0.3587,0.0002,0.7582,USE THEO = YES
    HIT/BASIC,NORMAL,0.4039,0,0.742,-0.0001684,-1,0.0000545,0.4035,0,0.7415,USE THEO = YES
    ENDMEAS/
    ALIGN3 =ALIGNMENT/START,RECALL:ALIGN2,LIST=YES
    ALIGNMENT/LEVEL,YMINUS,PLANE2
    ALIGNMENT/END
    MOVE/POINT,NORMAL,0.0185,-0.3549,-0.0756
    CIRCLE3 =FEAT/CIRCLE,RECT,IN,LEAST_SQR
    THEO/-0.0003,0.148,-0.0001,0,-1,0,0.9986
    ACTL/-0.0005,0.1476,-0.0001,0,-1,0,0.9987
    MEAS/CIRCLE,6,WORKPLANE
    HIT/BASIC,NORMAL,0.0299,0.1478,0.4983,-0.0636211,0,-0.9979741,0.0282,0.1471,0.4985,USE THEO = YES
    MOVE/CIRCULAR
    HIT/BASIC,NORMAL,0.4336,0.1482,0.2353,-0.8579569,0,-0.5137217,0.4408,0.1479,0.2332,USE THEO = YES
    MOVE/CIRCULAR
    HIT/BASIC,NORMAL,0.4459,0.1485,-0.2159,-0.884307,0,0.4669059,0.4501,0.1482,-0.216,USE THEO = YES
    MOVE/CIRCULAR
    HIT/BASIC,NORMAL,-0.0448,0.1481,-0.4973,0.0949798,0,0.9954792,-0.0438,0.1478,-0.4975,USE THEO = YES
    MOVE/CIRCULAR
    HIT/BASIC,NORMAL,-0.4241,0.1477,-0.2519,0.8359155,0,0.5488582,-0.4313,0.1474,-0.2526,USE THEO = YES
    MOVE/CIRCULAR
    HIT/BASIC,NORMAL,-0.4265,0.1476,0.2493,0.8412436,0,-0.5406563,-0.4335,0.1473,0.2486,USE THEO = YES
    ENDMEAS/
    MOVE/POINT,NORMAL,0.0446,-0.3686,0.7602
    CIRCLE4 =FEAT/CIRCLE,RECT,IN,LEAST_SQR
    THEO/0,0.0891,0.8594,0,-1,0,0.1968
    ACTL/-0.0003,0.0883,0.8592,0,-1,0,0.1967
    MEAS/CIRCLE,4,WORKPLANE
    HIT/BASIC,NORMAL,0.0063,0.0894,0.9575,-0.0916322,0,-0.9957929,0.0032,0.0866,0.9575,USE THEO = YES
    MOVE/CIRCULAR
    HIT/BASIC,NORMAL,0.098,0.0893,0.8523,-0.9944544,0,0.1051683,0.098,0.0889,0.8549,USE THEO = YES
    MOVE/CIRCULAR
    HIT/BASIC,NORMAL,0.0173,0.089,0.7639,-0.3074624,0,0.9515602,0.0071,0.0889,0.7612,USE THEO = YES
    MOVE/CIRCULAR
    HIT/BASIC,NORMAL,-0.0965,0.0887,0.8455,0.9682961,0,0.2498054,-0.0986,0.0888,0.8545,USE THEO = YES
    ENDMEAS/
    MOVE/POINT,NORMAL,0.0122,-0.5926,0.8421
    ALIGN4 =ALIGNMENT/START,RECALL:ALIGN3,LIST=YES
    ALIGNMENT/LEVEL,YMINUS,PLANE2
    ALIGNMENT/ROTATE_CIRCLE,ZPLUS,TO,CIRCLE3,AND,CIRCLE4,ABOUT,Y MINUS
    ALIGNMENT/TRANS,XAXIS,CIRCLE3
    ALIGNMENT/TRANS,YAXIS,CIRCLE3
    ALIGNMENT/TRANS,ZAXIS,PLANE2
    ALIGNMENT/END
    MOVE/POINT,NORMAL,0.0219,-0.6712,0.8333
    MOVE/POINT,NORMAL,0.9338,-0.6705,0.015
    PLANE3 =FEAT/PLANE,RECT,TRIANGLE
    THEO/0.7094,-0.0476,0.0094,0.4434843,-0.8962809,-0.0014819
    ACTL/0.7094,-0.0476,0.0094,0.4434843,-0.8962809,-0.0014819
    MEAS/PLANE,3
    HIT/BASIC,NORMAL,0.5975,-0.1065,-0.6323,-0.4435052,0.8962706,0.0014692,0.5801,-0.1105,-0.6323,USE THEO = YES
    HIT/BASIC,NORMAL,0.9465,0.0652,0.0124,-0.4435052,0.8962706,0.0014692,0.9292,0.0611,0.0125 ,USE THEO = YES
    HIT/BASIC,NORMAL,0.6361,-0.0895,0.6479,-0.4435052,0.8962706,0.0014692,0.6188,-0.0935,0.6479,USE THEO = YES
    ENDMEAS/
    MOVE/POINT,NORMAL,0.6367,-0.634,0.6473
    LINE1 =FEAT/LINE,RECT,UNBND
    THEO/0.8054,-0.0001,-0.0021,0.0034505,0.0000539,0.999994
    ACTL/0.5074,-0.1475,0.0042,0.0033416,0,0.9999944
    CONSTR/LINE,INTOF,PLANE2,PLANE3
    Attached Files

  • #2
    First-time poster, welcome. Use [ CODE ] and [ /CODE ] to make the program look like it does on the Pcdmis screen.

    I would suggest you measure a line on the bevel, BUT you need to be in the correct workplane for it to come out right. Rotate the view using the 3-D rotate until you can see where the line should be, then use the cube face you see on the rotate for your workplane. If you are not in the correct workplane, it will not make the line right. ALSO, you could try doign individual points and constructing either a 2-D line (using the correct workplane) or a 3-D line, then use that for dimension. HOWEVER, the dimension will also have to be done in the correct workplane. Pcdmis has to be able to 'see' this angle and it needs to knwo from which direction to 'look'.

    Originally posted by KENNETH BAKER View Post
    I,m trying to write my first program, and not having a easy time of it. I was in Chicago last week for a PC-DMIS cad course. I thought I had a grasp of the principles last week but now I'm wondering about that. My problem is that I have a cylinder bored through with two beveled edges at one end. I need to measure the angle of the beveled surfaces to the end face of the cylinder,and the distance from center line of the part to the edge of the bevels. I did not import CAD file I have done everything manually. The face of my part is my work plane that I leveled to, I set rotation off the center bore and another hole in the face of the part. I set my X & Y origins at the center bore, and Z origin at the face. I have sucessfully measured all other features on the part at both ends of the part. My problem is that when I create a plane (or line I tried both) on the bevels so that I can constuct a line at the intersection of my bevel plane and work plane to measure my distance from center line of the part to the edge of my beveled surface every thing seems fine. When I run the program however it takes one hit and errors out. It tells me unexpected hit. It seems to be taking the hit in the correct location however. I just seems that it is maybe traveling into the face of the bevel to far. Sorry for the long post I wanted to be discriptive. I've included a portion of the program, and attached a pdf of the part.

    Thank you,
    Ken Baker

    Here is the code
    Code:
    PART NAME  : BORED_MOUNT
    REV NUMBER : 1
    SER NUMBER : 
    STATS COUNT : 1
     
    STARTUP    =ALIGNMENT/START,RECALL:,LIST=YES
                ALIGNMENT/END
                MODE/MANUAL
                PREHIT/ 0.118
                RETRACT/ 0.118
                MOVESPEED/ 50
                TOUCHSPEED/ 1.5
                MANRETRACT/0.1181
                FLY/ON,0.1181
                FORMAT/TEXT,OPTIONS,ID,HEADINGS,SYMBOLS, ;NOM,TOL,MEAS,DEV,OUTTOL, , 
                LOADPROBE/2MMBALLX30MM
                TIP/T1A90B180, SHANKIJK=0, -1, 0, ANGLE=180
                WORKPLANE/YMINUS
    PLANE1     =FEAT/PLANE,RECT,TRIANGLE
                THEO/27.6128,27.3141,-22.6789,0.0009314,-0.9999994,-0.0006152
                ACTL/27.6128,27.3141,-22.6789,0.0009314,-0.9999994,-0.0006152
                MEAS/PLANE,3
                HIT/BASIC,NORMAL,27.1636,27.3134,-22.1888,-0.0009311,0.9999994,0.0006153,27.1636,27.3134,-22.1888,USE THEO = YES
                HIT/BASIC,NORMAL,27.9125,27.3141,-22.1893,-0.0009311,0.9999994,0.0006153,27.9125,27.3141,-22.1892,USE THEO = YES
                HIT/BASIC,NORMAL,27.7623,27.3149,-23.6587,-0.0009311,0.9999994,0.0006153,27.7623,27.3149,-23.6587,USE THEO = YES
                ENDMEAS/
    ALIGN1     =ALIGNMENT/START,RECALL:STARTUP,LIST=YES
                ALIGNMENT/LEVEL,YMINUS,PLANE1
                ALIGNMENT/END
    CIRCLE1    =FEAT/CIRCLE,RECT,IN,LEAST_SQR
                THEO/27.6044,27.4334,-22.9693,0,-1,0,0.9983
                ACTL/27.6044,27.4334,-22.9693,0,-1,0,0.9983
                MEAS/CIRCLE,3,WORKPLANE
                HIT/BASIC,NORMAL,27.6016,27.4331,-23.4685,0.0061888,0,0.9999808,27.6014,27.4331,-23.4685,USE THEO = YES
                MOVE/CIRCULAR
                HIT/BASIC,NORMAL,27.106,27.4337,-22.9946,0.9984877,0,0.0549752,27.106,27.4336,-22.9967,USE THEO = YES
                MOVE/CIRCULAR
                HIT/BASIC,NORMAL,27.6785,27.4333,-22.4761,-0.1610501,0,-0.9869462,27.6848,27.4333,-22.4767,USE THEO = YES
                ENDMEAS/
    CIRCLE2    =FEAT/CIRCLE,RECT,IN,LEAST_SQR
                THEO/27.6236,27.3104,-23.8283,0,-1,0,0.1964
                ACTL/27.6236,27.3104,-23.8283,0,-1,0,0.1964
                MEAS/CIRCLE,3,WORKPLANE
                HIT/BASIC,NORMAL,27.6174,27.3104,-23.9262,0.1047423,0,0.9944994,27.6133,27.3104,-23.926,USE THEO = YES
                MOVE/CIRCULAR
                HIT/BASIC,NORMAL,27.5256,27.3105,-23.8324,0.9976038,0,0.0691855,27.5257,27.3104,-23.8351,USE THEO = YES
                MOVE/CIRCULAR
                HIT/BASIC,NORMAL,27.6285,27.3104,-23.7303,-0.0842036,0,-0.9964486,27.6319,27.3104,-23.7305,USE THEO = YES
                ENDMEAS/
    ALIGN2     =ALIGNMENT/START,RECALL:ALIGN1,LIST=YES
                ALIGNMENT/LEVEL,YMINUS,PLANE1
                ALIGNMENT/ROTATE_CIRCLE,ZPLUS,TO,CIRCLE1,AND,CIRCLE2,ABOUT,YMINUS
                ALIGNMENT/TRANS,XAXIS,CIRCLE1
                ALIGNMENT/TRANS,YAXIS,PLANE1
                ALIGNMENT/TRANS,ZAXIS,CIRCLE1
                ALIGNMENT/END
                MODE/DCC
    PLANE2     =FEAT/PLANE,RECT,TRIANGLE
                THEO/0.0103,0,-0.0105,-0.0001684,-1,0.0000545
                ACTL/0.0103,0.0001,-0.0114,-0.0002716,-1,0.0000619
                MEAS/PLANE,4
                HIT/BASIC,NORMAL,0.3889,-0.0001,-0.7803,-0.0001684,-1,0.0000545,0.3891,-0.0001,-0.7814,USE THEO = YES
                HIT/BASIC,NORMAL,-0.3929,0,-0.7633,-0.0001684,-1,0.0000545,-0.3925,0.0001,-0.7639,USE THEO = YES
                HIT/BASIC,NORMAL,-0.3589,0.0002,0.7595,-0.0001684,-1,0.0000545,-0.3587,0.0002,0.7582,USE THEO = YES
                HIT/BASIC,NORMAL,0.4039,0,0.742,-0.0001684,-1,0.0000545,0.4035,0,0.7415,USE THEO = YES
                ENDMEAS/
    ALIGN3     =ALIGNMENT/START,RECALL:ALIGN2,LIST=YES
                ALIGNMENT/LEVEL,YMINUS,PLANE2
                ALIGNMENT/END
                MOVE/POINT,NORMAL,0.0185,-0.3549,-0.0756
    CIRCLE3    =FEAT/CIRCLE,RECT,IN,LEAST_SQR
                THEO/-0.0003,0.148,-0.0001,0,-1,0,0.9986
                ACTL/-0.0005,0.1476,-0.0001,0,-1,0,0.9987
                MEAS/CIRCLE,6,WORKPLANE
                HIT/BASIC,NORMAL,0.0299,0.1478,0.4983,-0.0636211,0,-0.9979741,0.0282,0.1471,0.4985,USE THEO = YES
                MOVE/CIRCULAR
                HIT/BASIC,NORMAL,0.4336,0.1482,0.2353,-0.8579569,0,-0.5137217,0.4408,0.1479,0.2332,USE THEO = YES
                MOVE/CIRCULAR
                HIT/BASIC,NORMAL,0.4459,0.1485,-0.2159,-0.884307,0,0.4669059,0.4501,0.1482,-0.216,USE THEO = YES
                MOVE/CIRCULAR
                HIT/BASIC,NORMAL,-0.0448,0.1481,-0.4973,0.0949798,0,0.9954792,-0.0438,0.1478,-0.4975,USE THEO = YES
                MOVE/CIRCULAR
                HIT/BASIC,NORMAL,-0.4241,0.1477,-0.2519,0.8359155,0,0.5488582,-0.4313,0.1474,-0.2526,USE THEO = YES
                MOVE/CIRCULAR
                HIT/BASIC,NORMAL,-0.4265,0.1476,0.2493,0.8412436,0,-0.5406563,-0.4335,0.1473,0.2486,USE THEO = YES
                ENDMEAS/
                MOVE/POINT,NORMAL,0.0446,-0.3686,0.7602
    CIRCLE4    =FEAT/CIRCLE,RECT,IN,LEAST_SQR
                THEO/0,0.0891,0.8594,0,-1,0,0.1968
                ACTL/-0.0003,0.0883,0.8592,0,-1,0,0.1967
                MEAS/CIRCLE,4,WORKPLANE
                HIT/BASIC,NORMAL,0.0063,0.0894,0.9575,-0.0916322,0,-0.9957929,0.0032,0.0866,0.9575,USE THEO = YES
                MOVE/CIRCULAR
                HIT/BASIC,NORMAL,0.098,0.0893,0.8523,-0.9944544,0,0.1051683,0.098,0.0889,0.8549,USE THEO = YES
                MOVE/CIRCULAR
                HIT/BASIC,NORMAL,0.0173,0.089,0.7639,-0.3074624,0,0.9515602,0.0071,0.0889,0.7612,USE THEO = YES
                MOVE/CIRCULAR
                HIT/BASIC,NORMAL,-0.0965,0.0887,0.8455,0.9682961,0,0.2498054,-0.0986,0.0888,0.8545,USE THEO = YES
                ENDMEAS/
                MOVE/POINT,NORMAL,0.0122,-0.5926,0.8421
    ALIGN4     =ALIGNMENT/START,RECALL:ALIGN3,LIST=YES
                ALIGNMENT/LEVEL,YMINUS,PLANE2
                ALIGNMENT/ROTATE_CIRCLE,ZPLUS,TO,CIRCLE3,AND,CIRCLE4,ABOUT,YMINUS
                ALIGNMENT/TRANS,XAXIS,CIRCLE3
                ALIGNMENT/TRANS,YAXIS,CIRCLE3
                ALIGNMENT/TRANS,ZAXIS,PLANE2
                ALIGNMENT/END
                MOVE/POINT,NORMAL,0.0219,-0.6712,0.8333
                MOVE/POINT,NORMAL,0.9338,-0.6705,0.015
    PLANE3     =FEAT/PLANE,RECT,TRIANGLE
                THEO/0.7094,-0.0476,0.0094,0.4434843,-0.8962809,-0.0014819
                ACTL/0.7094,-0.0476,0.0094,0.4434843,-0.8962809,-0.0014819
                MEAS/PLANE,3
                HIT/BASIC,NORMAL,0.5975,-0.1065,-0.6323,-0.4435052,0.8962706,0.0014692,0.5801,-0.1105,-0.6323,USE THEO = YES
                HIT/BASIC,NORMAL,0.9465,0.0652,0.0124,-0.4435052,0.8962706,0.0014692,0.9292,0.0611,0.0125,USE THEO = YES
                HIT/BASIC,NORMAL,0.6361,-0.0895,0.6479,-0.4435052,0.8962706,0.0014692,0.6188,-0.0935,0.6479,USE THEO = YES
                ENDMEAS/
                MOVE/POINT,NORMAL,0.6367,-0.634,0.6473
    LINE1      =FEAT/LINE,RECT,UNBND
                THEO/0.8054,-0.0001,-0.0021,0.0034505,0.0000539,0.999994
                ACTL/0.5074,-0.1475,0.0042,0.0033416,0,0.9999944
                CONSTR/LINE,INTOF,PLANE2,PLANE3
    sigpic
    Originally posted by AndersI
    I've got one from September 2006 (bug ticket) which has finally been fixed in 2013.

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    • #3
      Your hit vectors are opposite signs of your actual vectors. You ought to try rotating to the nominal angle of the plane and so you can take hits at whole number vectors instead of guessing if your cosines are correct.
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      • #4
        Switch to a workplane that is perpendicular to the planes you are creating, ie. X or Y depending how you are your part set. You have to change workplanes before creating the features.
        I used to be high on life but I built up a tolerance.

        Brown & Sharpe Global Advantage
        PCDMIS CAD++ v2011mr2
        PH10MQ/SP600M


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