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  • Parameter Trouble

    I am brand new to the PC-DMIS software in Greensboro NC. My background is working with the Zeiss CMM and Calypso software which seems to be a little more user- friendly. I have been following the manual step for step and have accomplished in writing a test program. However, when I go to run the program, a fault appears and tells me that the parameters are out of tolerance. I have tried what little I know about this software and nothing seems to work. I need some help here.

  • #2
    Does it say Machine Parameters Out of Tolerance?
    It could be that you have an alignment issue.
    Also, if your part is to close to the edges of the measurement envelope, this will come up.
    Can you post the beginning of your code?
    When in doubt, post code. A second set of eyes might see something you missed.
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    • #3
      Are you in manual or dcc mode prior to the alignment? Should be Manual.
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      • #4
        It sounds like you might be defining a feature or move point that is out of the machine tolerance. Like John K. said, you could be too close to the measurement envelope. There is a soft zone where you can manually move your probe but dcc won't allow due to safety precautions.
        I used to be high on life but I built up a tolerance.

        Brown & Sharpe Global Advantage
        PCDMIS CAD++ v2011mr2
        PH10MQ/SP600M


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        • #5
          The error I keep getting is TR_OUTOL. I am writing the program in "manual" mode. Where can I find the "envelope" because the part is sitting more to the right of the table versus the center.

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          • #6
            Can you post your alignment code?
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            • #7
              Originally posted by emurray View Post
              The error I keep getting is TR_OUTOL. I am writing the program in "manual" mode. Where can I find the "envelope" because the part is sitting more to the right of the table versus the center.

              We were talking more to the edge of the machine. View your graphics display and see that all features are located appropriately around the datum.

              When you get the error, and cancel the program, a red arrow should appear next to the feature in question. Double check that feature to see that the x,y,z locations are correct.
              I used to be high on life but I built up a tolerance.

              Brown & Sharpe Global Advantage
              PCDMIS CAD++ v2011mr2
              PH10MQ/SP600M


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              • #8
                Hard to tell what is happening without seeing what your program does. As mentioned in a prior post, post your program.

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                • #9
                  Here is a copy of the test program that I am trying to write. Please keep in mind that this is my second day uising this software and it is nothing like calypso. I used some basic features and alignments. PLEASE HELP



                  RECALL/ALIGNMENT,INTERNAL, ALIGNMENT/TRANS,YAXIS,CIR1 ALIGNMENT/TRANS,XAXIS,CIR1 ALIGNMENT/TRANS,ZAXIS,PLN1 ALIGNMENT/LEVEL,ZPLUS,PLN1A2 =ALIGNMENT/START,RECALL:STARTUP, LIST= YES
                  ALIGNMENT/LEVEL,ZPLUS,PLN1
                  ALIGNMENT/TRANS,ZAXIS,PLN1
                  ALIGNMENT/TRANS,XAXIS,CIR1
                  ALIGNMENT/TRANS,YAXIS,CIR1
                  ALIGNMENT/ENDTP MMC 0.0000 0.0000 0.0052 164.8219 0.0052 -------->D2 0.4473 0.0000 0.0000 0.4470 CIRCLE CIR2 AT RFS D1 0.4465 0.0000 0.0000 0.4467 CIRCLE CIR4 AT RFS DF 0.4451 0.0000 0.0000 0.0000 0.4503 0.0052 0.0052 -------->Y 12.4934 12.4941 0.0007 X 15.6724 15.6699 -0.0025 DIM LOC1= TRUE POSITION OF CIRCLE CIR3 UNITS=IN ,$
                  GRAPH=OFF TEXT=OFF MULT=10.00 OUTPUT=BOTH DEV PERPEN CENTERLINE=OFF DISPLAY=DIAMETER
                  AX NOMINAL +TOL -TOL BONUS MEAS DEV DEVANG OUTTOL
                  X 15.6724 15.6699 -0.0025
                  Y 12.4934 12.4941 0.0007
                  DF 0.4451 0.0000 0.0000 0.0000 0.4503 0.0052 0.0052 -------->
                  D1 0.4465 0.0000 0.0000 0.4467 CIRCLE CIR4 AT RFS
                  D2 0.4473 0.0000 0.0000 0.4470 CIRCLE CIR2 AT RFS
                  TP MMC 0.0000 0.0000 0.0052 164.8219 0.0052 -------->
                  END OF DIMENSION LOC1 HIT/BASIC,NORMAL,12.794,7.7396,-17.6873,0.6650065,-0.7468376,0,12.8003,7.7452,-17.7381,USE THEO = YES HIT/BASIC,NORMAL,13.0433,7.3762,-17.6873,-0.4572583,0.8893339,0,13.0411,7.3751,-17.7381,USE THEO = YES HIT/BASIC,NORMAL,12.7713,7.4277,-17.6873,0.759656,0.6503252,0,12.7479,7.4596,-17.7381,USE THEO = YES HIT/BASIC,NORMAL,13.1338,7.6895,-17.6873,-0.8563899,-0.5163297,0,13.1316,7.6922,-17.7381,USE THEO = YES MOVE/CLEARPLANECIR4 =FEAT/CIRCLE,RECT,IN,LEAST_SQR
                  THEO/12.9418,7.5737,-17.6873,0,0,1,0.4465
                  ACTL/12.9411,7.5735,-17.7381,0,0,1,0.4467
                  MEAS/CIRCLE,4,WORKPLANE
                  MOVE/CLEARPLANE
                  HIT/BASIC,NORMAL,13.1338,7.6895,-17.6873,-0.8563899,-0.5163297,0,13.1316,7.6922,-17.7381,USE THEO = YES
                  HIT/BASIC,NORMAL,12.7713,7.4277,-17.6873,0.759656,0.6503252,0,12.7479,7.4596,-17.7381,USE THEO = YES
                  HIT/BASIC,NORMAL,13.0433,7.3762,-17.6873,-0.4572583,0.8893339,0,13.0411,7.3751,-17.7381,USE THEO = YES
                  HIT/BASIC,NORMAL,12.794,7.7396,-17.6873,0.6650065,-0.7468376,0,12.8003,7.7452,-17.7381,USE THEO = YES
                  ENDMEAS/ HIT/BASIC,NORMAL,15.4514,12.5083,-17.7499,0.9977298,-0.0673444,0,15.4457,12.4704,-17.7224,USE THEO = YES HIT/BASIC,NORMAL,15.8933,12.5083,-17.7498,-0.9977194,-0.0674981,0,15.8936,12.4704,-17.7223,USE THEO = YES HIT/BASIC,NORMAL,15.6915,12.7163,-17.7498,-0.0850857,-0.9963736,0,15.6902,12.3072,-17.7223,USE THEO = YES HIT/BASIC,NORMAL,15.6813,12.27,-17.7497,-0.0394931,0.9992198,0,15.6893,12.6802,-17.7223,USE THEO = YES MOVE/CLEARPLANECIR3 =FEAT/CIRCLE,RECT,IN,LEAST_SQR
                  THEO/15.6724,12.4934,-17.7498,0,0,1,0.4451
                  ACTL/15.6697,12.4937,-17.7223,0,0,1,0.4503
                  MEAS/CIRCLE,4,WORKPLANE
                  MOVE/CLEARPLANE
                  HIT/BASIC,NORMAL,15.6813,12.27,-17.7497,-0.0394931,0.9992198,0,15.6893,12.6802,-17.7223,USE THEO = YES
                  HIT/BASIC,NORMAL,15.6915,12.7163,-17.7498,-0.0850857,-0.9963736,0,15.6902,12.3072,-17.7223,USE THEO = YES
                  HIT/BASIC,NORMAL,15.8933,12.5083,-17.7498,-0.9977194,-0.0674981,0,15.8936,12.4704,-17.7223,USE THEO = YES
                  HIT/BASIC,NORMAL,15.4514,12.5083,-17.7499,0.9977298,-0.0673444,0,15.4457,12.4704,-17.7224,USE THEO = YES
                  ENDMEAS/ HIT/BASIC,NORMAL,18.2834,7.4699,-17.6992,0.3426368,0.9394679,0,18.2637,7.4788,-17.6778,USE THEO = YES HIT/BASIC,NORMAL,18.5713,7.751,-17.6991,-0.9475703,-0.3195474,0,18.531,7.8193,-17.6777,USE THEO = YES HIT/BASIC,NORMAL,18.1734,7.8036,-17.6992,0.8330036,-0.5532675,0,18.1596,7.7793,-17.6778,USE THEO = YES HIT/BASIC,NORMAL,18.5667,7.5927,-17.6991,-0.9217923,0.3876841,0,18.5627,7.5818,-17.6778,USE THEO = YES MOVE/CLEARPLANECIR2 =FEAT/CIRCLE,RECT,IN,LEAST_SQR
                  THEO/18.3599,7.6797,-17.6992,0,0,1,0.4473
                  ACTL/18.3601,7.6791,-17.6778,0,0,1,0.447
                  MEAS/CIRCLE,4,WORKPLANE
                  MOVE/CLEARPLANE
                  HIT/BASIC,NORMAL,18.5667,7.5927,-17.6991,-0.9217923,0.3876841,0,18.5627,7.5818,-17.6778,USE THEO = YES
                  HIT/BASIC,NORMAL,18.1734,7.8036,-17.6992,0.8330036,-0.5532675,0,18.1596,7.7793,-17.6778,USE THEO = YES
                  HIT/BASIC,NORMAL,18.5713,7.751,-17.6991,-0.9475703,-0.3195474,0,18.531,7.8193,-17.6777,USE THEO = YES
                  HIT/BASIC,NORMAL,18.2834,7.4699,-17.6992,0.3426368,0.9394679,0,18.2637,7.4788,-17.6778,USE THEO = YES
                  ENDMEAS/ HIT/BASIC,NORMAL,14.3674,9.3373,-17.5305,0.9998593,-0.0167717,0,14.3697,9.2986,-17.6012,USE THEO = YES HIT/BASIC,NORMAL,16.8721,9.3375,-17.5305,-0.9998575,-0.0168806,0,16.8697,9.2707,-17.6012,USE THEO = YES HIT/BASIC,NORMAL,15.5312,8.0772,-17.5305,0.0715583,0.9974364,0,15.4239,10.5031,-17.6013,USE THEO = YES HIT/BASIC,NORMAL,15.5311,10.5553,-17.5306,0.0717007,-0.9974262,0,15.6321,8.1139,-17.6011,USE THEO = YES MOVE/CLEARPLANECIR1 =FEAT/CIRCLE,RECT,IN,LEAST_SQR
                  THEO/15.6201,9.3163,-17.5305,0,0,1,2.4947
                  ACTL/15.6205,9.3163,-17.6012,0,0,1,2.4905
                  MEAS/CIRCLE,4,WORKPLANE
                  MOVE/CLEARPLANE
                  HIT/BASIC,NORMAL,15.5311,10.5553,-17.5306,0.0717007,-0.9974262,0,15.6321,8.1139,-17.6011,USE THEO = YES
                  HIT/BASIC,NORMAL,15.5312,8.0772,-17.5305,0.0715583,0.9974364,0,15.4239,10.5031,-17.6013,USE THEO = YES
                  HIT/BASIC,NORMAL,16.8721,9.3375,-17.5305,-0.9998575,-0.0168806,0,16.8697,9.2707,-17.6012,USE THEO = YES
                  HIT/BASIC,NORMAL,14.3674,9.3373,-17.5305,0.9998593,-0.0167717,0,14.3697,9.2986,-17.6012,USE THEO = YES
                  ENDMEAS/ HIT/BASIC,NORMAL,15.7211,6.849,-17.0947,-0.0127343,0.0015754,0.9999177,15.721,6.8489,-17.0921,USE THEO = YES HIT/BASIC,NORMAL,18.0435,9.1007,-17.0686,-0.0127343,0.0015754,0.9999177,18.0434,9.1007,-17.0648,USE THEO = YES HIT/BASIC,NORMAL,15.1793,11.6246,-17.1091,-0.0127343,0.0015754,0.9999177,17.3267,11.063,-17.0886,USE THEO = YES MOVE/CLEARPLANEPLN1 =FEAT/PLANE,RECT,TRIANGLE
                  THEO/16.3147,9.1915,-17.0908,-0.0127343,0.0015754,0.9999177
                  ACTL/15.5484,9.1693,-17.0866,0.0031603,-0.0018859,0.9999932
                  MEAS/PLANE,3
                  MOVE/CLEARPLANE
                  HIT/BASIC,NORMAL,15.1793,11.6246,-17.1091,-0.0127343,0.0015754,0.9999177,17.3267,11.063,-17.0886,USE THEO = YES
                  HIT/BASIC,NORMAL,18.0435,9.1007,-17.0686,-0.0127343,0.0015754,0.9999177,18.0434,9.1007,-17.0648,USE THEO = YES
                  HIT/BASIC,NORMAL,15.7211,6.849,-17.0947,-0.0127343,0.0015754,0.9999177,15.721,6.8489,-17.0921,USE THEO = YES
                  ENDMEAS/ TIP/T1A0B0, SHANKIJK=0, 0, 1, ANGLE=0 LOADPROBE/1MM_20SHANK_40EXT FLY/ON,0.1181 TOUCHSPEED/ 1.2 MOVESPEED/ 100 COMMENT/OPER,NO,Warning! Machine will be in "DCC" mode. MOVESPEED/ 50 CLEARP/ZPLUS,0.5,ZPLUS,0 FORMAT/TEXT,OPTIONS,ID,HEADINGS,SYMBOLS, ;NOM,TOL,MEAS,MAXMIN,DEV,DEVANG,OUTTOL MODE/DCC MOVESPEED/ 50 FORMAT/TEXT,OPTIONS,ID,HEADINGS,SYMBOLS, ;NOM,TOL,MEAS,MAXMIN,DEV,DEVANG,OUTTOL CLEARP/ZPLUS,0.5,ZPLUS,0STARTUP =ALIGNMENT/START,RECALL:, LIST= YES
                  ALIGNMENT/ENDPART NAME : Test
                  REV NUMBER :
                  SER NUMBER :
                  STATS COUNT : 1

                  STARTUP =ALIGNMENT/START,RECALL:, LIST= YES
                  ALIGNMENT/END FORMAT/TEXT,OPTIONS,ID,HEADINGS,SYMBOLS, ;NOM,TOL,MEAS,MAXMIN,DEV,DEVANG,OUTTOL

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                  • #10
                    Originally posted by emurray View Post
                    Here is a copy of the test program that I am trying to write. Please keep in mind that this is my second day uising this software and it is nothing like calypso. I used some basic features and alignments. PLEASE HELP



                    Code:
                    RECALL/ALIGNMENT,INTERNAL,            ALIGNMENT/TRANS,YAXIS,CIR1            ALIGNMENT/TRANS,XAXIS,CIR1            ALIGNMENT/TRANS,ZAXIS,PLN1            ALIGNMENT/LEVEL,ZPLUS,PLN1A2         =ALIGNMENT/START,RECALL:STARTUP, LIST= YES
                                ALIGNMENT/LEVEL,ZPLUS,PLN1
                                ALIGNMENT/TRANS,ZAXIS,PLN1
                                ALIGNMENT/TRANS,XAXIS,CIR1
                                ALIGNMENT/TRANS,YAXIS,CIR1
                                ALIGNMENT/ENDTP        MMC     0.0000                0.0000                 0.0052   164.8219     0.0052 -------->D2     0.4473     0.0000     0.0000                0.4470 CIRCLE CIR2 AT RFS           D1     0.4465     0.0000     0.0000                0.4467 CIRCLE CIR4 AT RFS           DF     0.4451     0.0000     0.0000     0.0000     0.4503      0.0052                0.0052 -------->Y     12.4934                                     12.4941      0.0007                      X     15.6724                                     15.6699     -0.0025                      DIM LOC1= TRUE POSITION OF CIRCLE CIR3  UNITS=IN ,$
                    GRAPH=OFF  TEXT=OFF  MULT=10.00  OUTPUT=BOTH  DEV PERPEN CENTERLINE=OFF  DISPLAY=DIAMETER
                    AX   NOMINAL     +TOL       -TOL       BONUS      MEAS        DEV       DEVANG     OUTTOL   
                    X     15.6724                                     15.6699     -0.0025                      
                    Y     12.4934                                     12.4941      0.0007                      
                    DF     0.4451     0.0000     0.0000     0.0000     0.4503      0.0052                0.0052 -------->
                    D1     0.4465     0.0000     0.0000                0.4467 CIRCLE CIR4 AT RFS           
                    D2     0.4473     0.0000     0.0000                0.4470 CIRCLE CIR2 AT RFS           
                    TP        MMC     0.0000                0.0000                 0.0052   164.8219     0.0052 -------->
                    END OF DIMENSION LOC1            HIT/BASIC,NORMAL,12.794,7.7396,-17.6873,0.6650065,-0.7468376,0,12.8003,7.7452,-17.7381,USE THEO = YES            HIT/BASIC,NORMAL,13.0433,7.3762,-17.6873,-0.4572583,0.8893339,0,13.0411,7.3751,-17.7381,USE THEO = YES            HIT/BASIC,NORMAL,12.7713,7.4277,-17.6873,0.759656,0.6503252,0,12.7479,7.4596,-17.7381,USE THEO = YES            HIT/BASIC,NORMAL,13.1338,7.6895,-17.6873,-0.8563899,-0.5163297,0,13.1316,7.6922,-17.7381,USE THEO = YES            MOVE/CLEARPLANECIR4       =FEAT/CIRCLE,RECT,IN,LEAST_SQR
                                THEO/12.9418,7.5737,-17.6873,0,0,1,0.4465
                                ACTL/12.9411,7.5735,-17.7381,0,0,1,0.4467
                                MEAS/CIRCLE,4,WORKPLANE
                                MOVE/CLEARPLANE
                                HIT/BASIC,NORMAL,13.1338,7.6895,-17.6873,-0.8563899,-0.5163297,0,13.1316,7.6922,-17.7381,USE THEO = YES
                                HIT/BASIC,NORMAL,12.7713,7.4277,-17.6873,0.759656,0.6503252,0,12.7479,7.4596,-17.7381,USE THEO = YES
                                HIT/BASIC,NORMAL,13.0433,7.3762,-17.6873,-0.4572583,0.8893339,0,13.0411,7.3751,-17.7381,USE THEO = YES
                                HIT/BASIC,NORMAL,12.794,7.7396,-17.6873,0.6650065,-0.7468376,0,12.8003,7.7452,-17.7381,USE THEO = YES
                                ENDMEAS/            HIT/BASIC,NORMAL,15.4514,12.5083,-17.7499,0.9977298,-0.0673444,0,15.4457,12.4704,-17.7224,USE THEO = YES            HIT/BASIC,NORMAL,15.8933,12.5083,-17.7498,-0.9977194,-0.0674981,0,15.8936,12.4704,-17.7223,USE THEO = YES            HIT/BASIC,NORMAL,15.6915,12.7163,-17.7498,-0.0850857,-0.9963736,0,15.6902,12.3072,-17.7223,USE THEO = YES            HIT/BASIC,NORMAL,15.6813,12.27,-17.7497,-0.0394931,0.9992198,0,15.6893,12.6802,-17.7223,USE THEO = YES            MOVE/CLEARPLANECIR3       =FEAT/CIRCLE,RECT,IN,LEAST_SQR
                                THEO/15.6724,12.4934,-17.7498,0,0,1,0.4451
                                ACTL/15.6697,12.4937,-17.7223,0,0,1,0.4503
                                MEAS/CIRCLE,4,WORKPLANE
                                MOVE/CLEARPLANE
                                HIT/BASIC,NORMAL,15.6813,12.27,-17.7497,-0.0394931,0.9992198,0,15.6893,12.6802,-17.7223,USE THEO = YES
                                HIT/BASIC,NORMAL,15.6915,12.7163,-17.7498,-0.0850857,-0.9963736,0,15.6902,12.3072,-17.7223,USE THEO = YES
                                HIT/BASIC,NORMAL,15.8933,12.5083,-17.7498,-0.9977194,-0.0674981,0,15.8936,12.4704,-17.7223,USE THEO = YES
                                HIT/BASIC,NORMAL,15.4514,12.5083,-17.7499,0.9977298,-0.0673444,0,15.4457,12.4704,-17.7224,USE THEO = YES
                                ENDMEAS/            HIT/BASIC,NORMAL,18.2834,7.4699,-17.6992,0.3426368,0.9394679,0,18.2637,7.4788,-17.6778,USE THEO = YES            HIT/BASIC,NORMAL,18.5713,7.751,-17.6991,-0.9475703,-0.3195474,0,18.531,7.8193,-17.6777,USE THEO = YES            HIT/BASIC,NORMAL,18.1734,7.8036,-17.6992,0.8330036,-0.5532675,0,18.1596,7.7793,-17.6778,USE THEO = YES            HIT/BASIC,NORMAL,18.5667,7.5927,-17.6991,-0.9217923,0.3876841,0,18.5627,7.5818,-17.6778,USE THEO = YES            MOVE/CLEARPLANECIR2       =FEAT/CIRCLE,RECT,IN,LEAST_SQR
                                THEO/18.3599,7.6797,-17.6992,0,0,1,0.4473
                                ACTL/18.3601,7.6791,-17.6778,0,0,1,0.447
                                MEAS/CIRCLE,4,WORKPLANE
                                MOVE/CLEARPLANE
                                HIT/BASIC,NORMAL,18.5667,7.5927,-17.6991,-0.9217923,0.3876841,0,18.5627,7.5818,-17.6778,USE THEO = YES
                                HIT/BASIC,NORMAL,18.1734,7.8036,-17.6992,0.8330036,-0.5532675,0,18.1596,7.7793,-17.6778,USE THEO = YES
                                HIT/BASIC,NORMAL,18.5713,7.751,-17.6991,-0.9475703,-0.3195474,0,18.531,7.8193,-17.6777,USE THEO = YES
                                HIT/BASIC,NORMAL,18.2834,7.4699,-17.6992,0.3426368,0.9394679,0,18.2637,7.4788,-17.6778,USE THEO = YES
                                ENDMEAS/            HIT/BASIC,NORMAL,14.3674,9.3373,-17.5305,0.9998593,-0.0167717,0,14.3697,9.2986,-17.6012,USE THEO = YES            HIT/BASIC,NORMAL,16.8721,9.3375,-17.5305,-0.9998575,-0.0168806,0,16.8697,9.2707,-17.6012,USE THEO = YES            HIT/BASIC,NORMAL,15.5312,8.0772,-17.5305,0.0715583,0.9974364,0,15.4239,10.5031,-17.6013,USE THEO = YES            HIT/BASIC,NORMAL,15.5311,10.5553,-17.5306,0.0717007,-0.9974262,0,15.6321,8.1139,-17.6011,USE THEO = YES            MOVE/CLEARPLANECIR1       =FEAT/CIRCLE,RECT,IN,LEAST_SQR
                                THEO/15.6201,9.3163,-17.5305,0,0,1,2.4947
                                ACTL/15.6205,9.3163,-17.6012,0,0,1,2.4905
                                MEAS/CIRCLE,4,WORKPLANE
                                MOVE/CLEARPLANE
                                HIT/BASIC,NORMAL,15.5311,10.5553,-17.5306,0.0717007,-0.9974262,0,15.6321,8.1139,-17.6011,USE THEO = YES
                                HIT/BASIC,NORMAL,15.5312,8.0772,-17.5305,0.0715583,0.9974364,0,15.4239,10.5031,-17.6013,USE THEO = YES
                                HIT/BASIC,NORMAL,16.8721,9.3375,-17.5305,-0.9998575,-0.0168806,0,16.8697,9.2707,-17.6012,USE THEO = YES
                                HIT/BASIC,NORMAL,14.3674,9.3373,-17.5305,0.9998593,-0.0167717,0,14.3697,9.2986,-17.6012,USE THEO = YES
                                ENDMEAS/            HIT/BASIC,NORMAL,15.7211,6.849,-17.0947,-0.0127343,0.0015754,0.9999177,15.721,6.8489,-17.0921,USE THEO = YES            HIT/BASIC,NORMAL,18.0435,9.1007,-17.0686,-0.0127343,0.0015754,0.9999177,18.0434,9.1007,-17.0648,USE THEO = YES            HIT/BASIC,NORMAL,15.1793,11.6246,-17.1091,-0.0127343,0.0015754,0.9999177,17.3267,11.063,-17.0886,USE THEO = YES            MOVE/CLEARPLANEPLN1       =FEAT/PLANE,RECT,TRIANGLE
                                THEO/16.3147,9.1915,-17.0908,-0.0127343,0.0015754,0.9999177
                                ACTL/15.5484,9.1693,-17.0866,0.0031603,-0.0018859,0.9999932
                                MEAS/PLANE,3
                                MOVE/CLEARPLANE
                                HIT/BASIC,NORMAL,15.1793,11.6246,-17.1091,-0.0127343,0.0015754,0.9999177,17.3267,11.063,-17.0886,USE THEO = YES
                                HIT/BASIC,NORMAL,18.0435,9.1007,-17.0686,-0.0127343,0.0015754,0.9999177,18.0434,9.1007,-17.0648,USE THEO = YES
                                HIT/BASIC,NORMAL,15.7211,6.849,-17.0947,-0.0127343,0.0015754,0.9999177,15.721,6.8489,-17.0921,USE THEO = YES
                                ENDMEAS/            TIP/T1A0B0, SHANKIJK=0, 0, 1, ANGLE=0            LOADPROBE/1MM_20SHANK_40EXT            FLY/ON,0.1181            TOUCHSPEED/ 1.2            MOVESPEED/ 100            COMMENT/OPER,NO,Warning! Machine will be in "DCC" mode.            MOVESPEED/ 50            CLEARP/ZPLUS,0.5,ZPLUS,0            FORMAT/TEXT,OPTIONS,ID,HEADINGS,SYMBOLS, ;NOM,TOL,MEAS,MAXMIN,DEV,DEVANG,OUTTOL            MODE/DCC            MOVESPEED/ 50            FORMAT/TEXT,OPTIONS,ID,HEADINGS,SYMBOLS, ;NOM,TOL,MEAS,MAXMIN,DEV,DEVANG,OUTTOL            CLEARP/ZPLUS,0.5,ZPLUS,0STARTUP    =ALIGNMENT/START,RECALL:, LIST= YES
                                ALIGNMENT/ENDPART NAME  : Test
                    REV NUMBER : 
                    SER NUMBER : 
                    STATS COUNT : 1
                     
                    STARTUP    =ALIGNMENT/START,RECALL:, LIST= YES
                                ALIGNMENT/END            FORMAT/TEXT,OPTIONS,ID,HEADINGS,SYMBOLS, ;NOM,TOL,MEAS,MAXMIN,DEV,DEVANG,OUTTOL

                    Is that exactly how it appears in pc-dmis??? It is kind of backwards.

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                    • #11
                      I just copy and pasted and this is what I got. I took 3 hits on the top plane, 4 hits on circle 1, 2, 3, and 4. Then did an alignment for the last 3 circles. Set my speeds and clearance planes and that was it. I dont why it didnt post that way

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                      • #12
                        Are any of the circles on the same x or y axis? if so create a line then use that line as a rotation in you alingment prior to zeroing out you X and Y
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                        • #13
                          Why don't you try that again. This time wrap what you past in [code][/code] tags. That way it will look more like pc-dmis looks. Start by highlighting from the start of your program to the end, copy it and paste it.

                          ie, when you post make it look like the following.
                          [code] paste stuff here [/code]

                          Your code looks all funny. The bit that posted at the end should be right up at the top of your program.

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                          • #14
                            Here is the program again

                            PART NAME : Test
                            REV NUMBER :
                            SER NUMBER :
                            STATS COUNT : 1

                            STARTUP =ALIGNMENT/START,RECALL:, LIST= YES
                            ALIGNMENT/END
                            CLEARP/ZPLUS,0.5,ZPLUS,0
                            FORMAT/TEXT,OPTIONS,ID,HEADINGS,SYMBOLS, ;NOM,TOL,MEAS,MAXMIN,DEV,DEVANG,OUTTOL
                            MOVESPEED/ 50
                            FORMAT/TEXT,OPTIONS,ID,HEADINGS,SYMBOLS, ;NOM,TOL,MEAS,MAXMIN,DEV,DEVANG,OUTTOL
                            MODE/DCC
                            FORMAT/TEXT,OPTIONS,ID,HEADINGS,SYMBOLS, ;NOM,TOL,MEAS,MAXMIN,DEV,DEVANG,OUTTOL
                            CLEARP/ZPLUS,0.5,ZPLUS,0
                            MOVESPEED/ 50
                            COMMENT/OPER,NO,Warning! Machine will be in "DCC" mode.
                            MOVESPEED/ 100
                            TOUCHSPEED/ 1.2
                            FLY/ON,0.1181
                            LOADPROBE/1MM_20SHANK_40EXT
                            TIP/T1A0B0, SHANKIJK=0, 0, 1, ANGLE=0
                            PLN1 =FEAT/PLANE,RECT,TRIANGLE
                            THEO/16.3147,9.1915,-17.0908,-0.0127343,0.0015754,0.9999177
                            ACTL/15.5484,9.1693,-17.0866,0.0031603,-0.0018859,0.9999932
                            MEAS/PLANE,3
                            MOVE/CLEARPLANE
                            HIT/BASIC,NORMAL,15.1793,11.6246,-17.1091,-0.0127343,0.0015754,0.9999177,17.3267,11.063,-17.0886,USE THEO = YES
                            HIT/BASIC,NORMAL,18.0435,9.1007,-17.0686,-0.0127343,0.0015754,0.9999177,18.0434,9.1007,-17.0648,USE THEO = YES
                            HIT/BASIC,NORMAL,15.7211,6.849,-17.0947,-0.0127343,0.0015754,0.9999177,15.721,6.8489,-17.0921,USE THEO = YES
                            ENDMEAS/
                            CIR1 =FEAT/CIRCLE,RECT,IN,LEAST_SQR
                            THEO/15.6201,9.3163,-17.5305,0,0,1,2.4947
                            ACTL/15.6205,9.3163,-17.6012,0,0,1,2.4905
                            MEAS/CIRCLE,4,WORKPLANE
                            MOVE/CLEARPLANE
                            HIT/BASIC,NORMAL,15.5311,10.5553,-17.5306,0.0717007,-0.9974262,0,15.6321,8.1139,-17.6011,USE THEO = YES
                            HIT/BASIC,NORMAL,15.5312,8.0772,-17.5305,0.0715583,0.9974364,0,15.4239,10.5031,-17.6013,USE THEO = YES
                            HIT/BASIC,NORMAL,16.8721,9.3375,-17.5305,-0.9998575,-0.0168806,0,16.8697,9.2707,-17.6012,USE THEO = YES
                            HIT/BASIC,NORMAL,14.3674,9.3373,-17.5305,0.9998593,-0.0167717,0,14.3697,9.2986,-17.6012,USE THEO = YES
                            ENDMEAS/
                            CIR2 =FEAT/CIRCLE,RECT,IN,LEAST_SQR
                            THEO/18.3599,7.6797,-17.6992,0,0,1,0.4473
                            ACTL/18.3601,7.6791,-17.6778,0,0,1,0.447
                            MEAS/CIRCLE,4,WORKPLANE
                            MOVE/CLEARPLANE
                            HIT/BASIC,NORMAL,18.5667,7.5927,-17.6991,-0.9217923,0.3876841,0,18.5627,7.5818,-17.6778,USE THEO = YES
                            HIT/BASIC,NORMAL,18.1734,7.8036,-17.6992,0.8330036,-0.5532675,0,18.1596,7.7793,-17.6778,USE THEO = YES
                            HIT/BASIC,NORMAL,18.5713,7.751,-17.6991,-0.9475703,-0.3195474,0,18.531,7.8193,-17.6777,USE THEO = YES
                            HIT/BASIC,NORMAL,18.2834,7.4699,-17.6992,0.3426368,0.9394679,0,18.2637,7.4788,-17.6778,USE THEO = YES
                            ENDMEAS/
                            CIR3 =FEAT/CIRCLE,RECT,IN,LEAST_SQR
                            THEO/15.6724,12.4934,-17.7498,0,0,1,0.4451
                            ACTL/15.6697,12.4937,-17.7223,0,0,1,0.4503
                            MEAS/CIRCLE,4,WORKPLANE
                            MOVE/CLEARPLANE
                            HIT/BASIC,NORMAL,15.6813,12.27,-17.7497,-0.0394931,0.9992198,0,15.6893,12.6802,-17.7223,USE THEO = YES
                            HIT/BASIC,NORMAL,15.6915,12.7163,-17.7498,-0.0850857,-0.9963736,0,15.6902,12.3072,-17.7223,USE THEO = YES
                            HIT/BASIC,NORMAL,15.8933,12.5083,-17.7498,-0.9977194,-0.0674981,0,15.8936,12.4704,-17.7223,USE THEO = YES
                            HIT/BASIC,NORMAL,15.4514,12.5083,-17.7499,0.9977298,-0.0673444,0,15.4457,12.4704,-17.7224,USE THEO = YES
                            ENDMEAS/
                            CIR4 =FEAT/CIRCLE,RECT,IN,LEAST_SQR
                            THEO/12.9418,7.5737,-17.6873,0,0,1,0.4465
                            ACTL/12.9411,7.5735,-17.7381,0,0,1,0.4467
                            MEAS/CIRCLE,4,WORKPLANE
                            MOVE/CLEARPLANE
                            HIT/BASIC,NORMAL,13.1338,7.6895,-17.6873,-0.8563899,-0.5163297,0,13.1316,7.6922,-17.7381,USE THEO = YES
                            HIT/BASIC,NORMAL,12.7713,7.4277,-17.6873,0.759656,0.6503252,0,12.7479,7.4596,-17.7381,USE THEO = YES
                            HIT/BASIC,NORMAL,13.0433,7.3762,-17.6873,-0.4572583,0.8893339,0,13.0411,7.3751,-17.7381,USE THEO = YES
                            HIT/BASIC,NORMAL,12.794,7.7396,-17.6873,0.6650065,-0.7468376,0,12.8003,7.7452,-17.7381,USE THEO = YES
                            ENDMEAS/
                            DIM LOC1= TRUE POSITION OF CIRCLE CIR3 UNITS=IN ,$
                            GRAPH=OFF TEXT=OFF MULT=10.00 OUTPUT=BOTH DEV PERPEN CENTERLINE=OFF DISPLAY=DIAMETER
                            AX NOMINAL +TOL -TOL BONUS MEAS DEV DEVANG OUTTOL
                            X 15.6724 15.6699 -0.0025
                            Y 12.4934 12.4941 0.0007
                            DF 0.4451 0.0000 0.0000 0.0000 0.4503 0.0052 0.0052 -------->
                            D1 0.4465 0.0000 0.0000 0.4467 CIRCLE CIR4 AT RFS
                            D2 0.4473 0.0000 0.0000 0.4470 CIRCLE CIR2 AT RFS
                            TP MMC 0.0000 0.0000 0.0052 164.8219 0.0052 -------->
                            END OF DIMENSION LOC1
                            A2 =ALIGNMENT/START,RECALL:STARTUP, LIST= YES
                            ALIGNMENT/LEVEL,ZPLUS,PLN1
                            ALIGNMENT/TRANS,ZAXIS,PLN1
                            ALIGNMENT/TRANS,XAXIS,CIR1
                            ALIGNMENT/TRANS,YAXIS,CIR1
                            ALIGNMENT/END
                            RECALL/ALIGNMENT,INTERNAL,

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                            • #15
                              Originally posted by emurray View Post
                              Code:
                              PART NAME  : Test
                              REV NUMBER : 
                              SER NUMBER : 
                              STATS COUNT : 1
                               
                              STARTUP    =ALIGNMENT/START,RECALL:, LIST= YES
                                          ALIGNMENT/END
                                          CLEARP/ZPLUS,0.5,ZPLUS,0
                                          FORMAT/TEXT,OPTIONS,ID,HEADINGS,SYMBOLS, ;NOM,TOL,MEAS,MAXMIN,DEV,DEVANG,OUTTOL
                                          MOVESPEED/ 50
                                          FORMAT/TEXT,OPTIONS,ID,HEADINGS,SYMBOLS, ;NOM,TOL,MEAS,MAXMIN,DEV,DEVANG,OUTTOL
                                          MODE/DCC
                                          FORMAT/TEXT,OPTIONS,ID,HEADINGS,SYMBOLS, ;NOM,TOL,MEAS,MAXMIN,DEV,DEVANG,OUTTOL
                                          CLEARP/ZPLUS,0.5,ZPLUS,0
                                          MOVESPEED/ 50
                                          COMMENT/OPER,NO,Warning! Machine will be in "DCC" mode.
                                          MOVESPEED/ 100
                                          TOUCHSPEED/ 1.2
                                          FLY/ON,0.1181
                                          LOADPROBE/1MM_20SHANK_40EXT
                                          TIP/T1A0B0, SHANKIJK=0, 0, 1, ANGLE=0
                              PLN1       =FEAT/PLANE,RECT,TRIANGLE
                                          THEO/16.3147,9.1915,-17.0908,-0.0127343,0.0015754,0.9999177
                                          ACTL/15.5484,9.1693,-17.0866,0.0031603,-0.0018859,0.9999932
                                          MEAS/PLANE,3
                                          MOVE/CLEARPLANE
                                          HIT/BASIC,NORMAL,15.1793,11.6246,-17.1091,-0.0127343,0.0015754,0.9999177,17.3267,11.063,-17.0886,USE THEO = YES
                                          HIT/BASIC,NORMAL,18.0435,9.1007,-17.0686,-0.0127343,0.0015754,0.9999177,18.0434,9.1007,-17.0648,USE THEO = YES
                                          HIT/BASIC,NORMAL,15.7211,6.849,-17.0947,-0.0127343,0.0015754,0.9999177,15.721,6.8489,-17.0921,USE THEO = YES
                                          ENDMEAS/
                              CIR1       =FEAT/CIRCLE,RECT,IN,LEAST_SQR
                                          THEO/15.6201,9.3163,-17.5305,0,0,1,2.4947
                                          ACTL/15.6205,9.3163,-17.6012,0,0,1,2.4905
                                          MEAS/CIRCLE,4,WORKPLANE
                                          MOVE/CLEARPLANE
                                          HIT/BASIC,NORMAL,15.5311,10.5553,-17.5306,0.0717007,-0.9974262,0,15.6321,8.1139,-17.6011,USE THEO = YES
                                          HIT/BASIC,NORMAL,15.5312,8.0772,-17.5305,0.0715583,0.9974364,0,15.4239,10.5031,-17.6013,USE THEO = YES
                                          HIT/BASIC,NORMAL,16.8721,9.3375,-17.5305,-0.9998575,-0.0168806,0,16.8697,9.2707,-17.6012,USE THEO = YES
                                          HIT/BASIC,NORMAL,14.3674,9.3373,-17.5305,0.9998593,-0.0167717,0,14.3697,9.2986,-17.6012,USE THEO = YES
                                          ENDMEAS/
                              CIR2       =FEAT/CIRCLE,RECT,IN,LEAST_SQR
                                          THEO/18.3599,7.6797,-17.6992,0,0,1,0.4473
                                          ACTL/18.3601,7.6791,-17.6778,0,0,1,0.447
                                          MEAS/CIRCLE,4,WORKPLANE
                                          MOVE/CLEARPLANE
                                          HIT/BASIC,NORMAL,18.5667,7.5927,-17.6991,-0.9217923,0.3876841,0,18.5627,7.5818,-17.6778,USE THEO = YES
                                          HIT/BASIC,NORMAL,18.1734,7.8036,-17.6992,0.8330036,-0.5532675,0,18.1596,7.7793,-17.6778,USE THEO = YES
                                          HIT/BASIC,NORMAL,18.5713,7.751,-17.6991,-0.9475703,-0.3195474,0,18.531,7.8193,-17.6777,USE THEO = YES
                                          HIT/BASIC,NORMAL,18.2834,7.4699,-17.6992,0.3426368,0.9394679,0,18.2637,7.4788,-17.6778,USE THEO = YES
                                          ENDMEAS/
                              CIR3       =FEAT/CIRCLE,RECT,IN,LEAST_SQR
                                          THEO/15.6724,12.4934,-17.7498,0,0,1,0.4451
                                          ACTL/15.6697,12.4937,-17.7223,0,0,1,0.4503
                                          MEAS/CIRCLE,4,WORKPLANE
                                          MOVE/CLEARPLANE
                                          HIT/BASIC,NORMAL,15.6813,12.27,-17.7497,-0.0394931,0.9992198,0,15.6893,12.6802,-17.7223,USE THEO = YES
                                          HIT/BASIC,NORMAL,15.6915,12.7163,-17.7498,-0.0850857,-0.9963736,0,15.6902,12.3072,-17.7223,USE THEO = YES
                                          HIT/BASIC,NORMAL,15.8933,12.5083,-17.7498,-0.9977194,-0.0674981,0,15.8936,12.4704,-17.7223,USE THEO = YES
                                          HIT/BASIC,NORMAL,15.4514,12.5083,-17.7499,0.9977298,-0.0673444,0,15.4457,12.4704,-17.7224,USE THEO = YES
                                          ENDMEAS/
                              CIR4       =FEAT/CIRCLE,RECT,IN,LEAST_SQR
                                          THEO/12.9418,7.5737,-17.6873,0,0,1,0.4465
                                          ACTL/12.9411,7.5735,-17.7381,0,0,1,0.4467
                                          MEAS/CIRCLE,4,WORKPLANE
                                          MOVE/CLEARPLANE
                                          HIT/BASIC,NORMAL,13.1338,7.6895,-17.6873,-0.8563899,-0.5163297,0,13.1316,7.6922,-17.7381,USE THEO = YES
                                          HIT/BASIC,NORMAL,12.7713,7.4277,-17.6873,0.759656,0.6503252,0,12.7479,7.4596,-17.7381,USE THEO = YES
                                          HIT/BASIC,NORMAL,13.0433,7.3762,-17.6873,-0.4572583,0.8893339,0,13.0411,7.3751,-17.7381,USE THEO = YES
                                          HIT/BASIC,NORMAL,12.794,7.7396,-17.6873,0.6650065,-0.7468376,0,12.8003,7.7452,-17.7381,USE THEO = YES
                                          ENDMEAS/
                              DIM LOC1= TRUE POSITION OF CIRCLE CIR3  UNITS=IN ,$
                              GRAPH=OFF  TEXT=OFF  MULT=10.00  OUTPUT=BOTH  DEV PERPEN CENTERLINE=OFF  DISPLAY=DIAMETER
                              AX   NOMINAL     +TOL       -TOL       BONUS      MEAS        DEV       DEVANG     OUTTOL   
                              X     15.6724                                     15.6699     -0.0025                      
                              Y     12.4934                                     12.4941      0.0007                      
                              DF     0.4451     0.0000     0.0000     0.0000     0.4503      0.0052                0.0052 -------->
                              D1     0.4465     0.0000     0.0000                0.4467 CIRCLE CIR4 AT RFS           
                              D2     0.4473     0.0000     0.0000                0.4470 CIRCLE CIR2 AT RFS           
                              TP        MMC     0.0000                0.0000                 0.0052   164.8219     0.0052 -------->
                              END OF DIMENSION LOC1
                              A2         =ALIGNMENT/START,RECALL:STARTUP, LIST= YES
                                          ALIGNMENT/LEVEL,ZPLUS,PLN1
                                          ALIGNMENT/TRANS,ZAXIS,PLN1
                                          ALIGNMENT/TRANS,XAXIS,CIR1
                                          ALIGNMENT/TRANS,YAXIS,CIR1
                                          ALIGNMENT/END
                                          RECALL/ALIGNMENT,INTERNAL
                              ,
                              You have no alignment until the very end of the program. Even then you have not set rotation

                              Then it loks like you recall an alignment but it is not established? That will put zero back up to machine zero. Virtually anything you try to check from there will give you a parameter error.

                              I would:
                              Measure PLANE
                              LEVEL and TRANSLATE to PLANE

                              Meaure Datum Circle
                              TRANSLATE X and Y to CIRCLE

                              Measure Rotation Circle
                              ROTATE to Rotation Circle

                              You do not HAVE to do the alignment commands imbedded in the features like this. You can measure all the features you need then do the alignment. But, you must have an alignment set before you try to Define and Measure anything.
                              HTH,
                              Bill Jarrells
                              A lie can travel half way around the world while the truth is putting on its shoes. - Mark Twain

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