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  • 3.73 Still not right??

    A while back I posted some weird issues with 3.73. I thought I had it solved by figuring out that 3.73 doesn't really like 3.72. Now it appears the issues ARE associated with 3.73 after all. Please review the attached code. When the code starts I am in an alignment that is 'Nominal' for the feature. Tube end is a PLANE at the end of the tube. CIR2 is the Tube OD projected to the Tube End. Tube_End Alignment is self explanatory.

    The Problem is E. I did an Auto Cylinder for E. PLease look at the Theo and the Actual. This is ridiculously impossible.

    In all fairness, if I run the program from the start it will straighten out. However, I cannot restart the program after EACH Measured Feature. I want to continue programming the Part. I now have to Align to E. WTF?

    Code:
    TUBE_END   =AUTO/PLANE,SHOWALLPARAMS = YES,SHOWHITS = YES
                THEO/0,-3,0,0,-1,0
                ACTL/-0.082,-0.899,0.065,-0.0020684,-0.999712,-0.023909
                TARG/0,-3,0,0,-1,0
                THEO_THICKNESS = 0,RECT,OUTLINE,$
                AUTO MOVE = BOTH,DISTANCE = 10,RMEAS = None,None,None,$
                NUMHITS = 8,NUMROWS = 1,SPACER = 42.5,RADIAL,$
                ANGLE VEC = 1,0,0
                MEAS/PLANE
                HIT/BASIC,42.5,-3,0,0,-1,0,42.399,-0.953,0.017
                HIT/BASIC,30.052,-3,30.052,0,-1,0,29.961,-1.693,30.06
                HIT/BASIC,0,-3,42.5,0,-1,0,-0.093,-1.913,42.518
                HIT/BASIC,-30.052,-3,30.052,0,-1,0,-30.119,-1.551,30.06
                HIT/BASIC,-42.5,-3,0,0,-1,0,-42.579,-0.84,0.028
                HIT/BASIC,-30.052,-3,-30.052,0,-1,0,-30.13,-0.06,-30.031
                HIT/BASIC,0,-3,-42.5,0,-1,0,-0.103,0.082,-42.479
                HIT/BASIC,30.052,-3,-30.052,0,-1,0,29.974,-0.256,-30.032
                ENDMEAS/
    CIR2       =FEAT/CIRCLE,RECT,OUT
                THEO/0,-3,0,0,-1,0,87
                ACTL/-0.006,-0.896,-0.07,-0.0020684,-0.999712,-0.023909,87.031
                CONSTR/CIRCLE,PROJ,TUBE_OD,TUBE_END
    TUBE_END   =ALIGNMENT/START,RECALL:A0, LIST= YES
                ALIGNMENT/LEVEL,YMINUS,TUBE_END
                ALIGNMENT/TRANS,XAXIS,CIR2
                ALIGNMENT/TRANS,YAXIS,CIR2
                ALIGNMENT/TRANS,ZAXIS,CIR2
                ALIGNMENT/END
    E          =AUTO/CYLINDER,SHOWALLPARAMS = NO,SHOWHITS = YES
                THEO/0,25,0,0,-1,0,74.85
                ACTL/73.502,25,-60.005,-0.5842091,-0.7771418,0.2339879,75.069
                TARG/0,25,0,0,-1,0
                MEAS/CYLINDER
                HIT/BASIC,0,30,37.425,0,0,-1,-87.464,-189.404,43.073
                HIT/BASIC,-26.463,30,26.463,0.707,0,-0.707,-110.511,-176.121,32.509
                HIT/BASIC,-37.425,30,0,1,0,0,-122.986,-174.568,6.469
                HIT/BASIC,-26.463,30,-26.463,0.707,0,0.707,-117.424,-185.673,-19.448
                HIT/BASIC,0,30,-37.425,0,0,1,-97.259,-202.728,-30.013
                HIT/BASIC,26.463,30,-26.463,-0.707,0,0.707,-74.387,-215.828,-19.279
                HIT/BASIC,37.425,30,0,-1,0,0,-62.169,-217.265,6.533
                HIT/BASIC,26.463,30,26.463,-0.707,0,-0.707,-67.576,-206.355,32.212
                HIT/BASIC,26.463,27.5,26.463,-0.707,0,-0.707,-69.022,-208.327,32.809
                HIT/BASIC,37.425,27.5,0,-1,0,0,-63.625,-219.217,7.117
                HIT/BASIC,26.463,27.5,-26.463,-0.707,0,0.707,-75.867,-217.779,-18.689
                HIT/BASIC,0,27.5,-37.425,0,0,1,-98.735,-204.667,-29.414
                HIT/BASIC,-26.463,27.5,-26.463,0.707,0,0.707,-118.879,-187.61,-18.875
                HIT/BASIC,-37.425,27.5,0,1,0,0,-124.457,-176.513,7.053
                HIT/BASIC,-26.463,27.5,26.463,0.707,0,-0.707,-111.954,-178.067,33.092
                HIT/BASIC,0,27.5,37.425,0,0,-1,-88.925,-191.359,43.647
                HIT/BASIC,0,25,37.425,0,0,-1,-90.384,-193.308,44.224
                HIT/BASIC,-26.463,25,26.463,0.707,0,-0.707,-113.421,-180.012,33.671
                HIT/BASIC,-37.425,25,0,1,0,0,-125.92,-178.438,7.633
                HIT/BASIC,-26.463,25,-26.463,0.707,0,0.707,-120.332,-189.558,-18.32
                HIT/BASIC,0,25,-37.425,0,0,1,-100.182,-206.616,-28.834
                HIT/BASIC,26.463,25,-26.463,-0.707,0,0.707,-77.31,-219.714,-18.095
                HIT/BASIC,37.425,25,0,-1,0,0,-65.081,-221.153,7.699
                HIT/BASIC,26.463,25,26.463,-0.707,0,-0.707,-70.465,-210.272,33.402
                ENDMEAS/
    Thanks, I eagerly await some insight.
    Bill
    Bill Jarrells
    A lie can travel half way around the world while the truth is putting on its shoes. - Mark Twain

  • #2
    More Code

    This includes the Alignment leading up to the feature. Thuis might be where it is happening, I don't know.


    Code:
    Tube_NOM   =ALIGNMENT/START,RECALL:-ABC-, LIST= YES
                ALIGNMENT/TRANS_OFFSET,XAXIS,-163.2
                ALIGNMENT/TRANS_OFFSET,YAXIS,-186
                ALIGNMENT/TRANS_OFFSET,ZAXIS,-36.6
                ALIGNMENT/ROTATE_OFFSET,-36.7,ABOUT,ZPLUS
                ALIGNMENT/ROTATE_OFFSET,-15,ABOUT,XPLUS
                ALIGNMENT/END
                WORKPLANE/YMINUS
                MOVE/POINT,NORMAL,59.369,-14.423,23.85
    TUBE_OD    =FEAT/CIRCLE,RECT,OUT,LEAST_SQR
                THEO/0,2,0,0,-1,0,87
                ACTL/1.061,2.013,-0.007,0,-1,0,87.031
                MEAS/CIRCLE,8,WORKPLANE
                HIT/BASIC,NORMAL,43.5,2,0,1,0,0,44.642,2.093,0.021,USE THEO = YES
                MOVE/CIRCULAR
                HIT/BASIC,NORMAL,30.759,2,30.759,0.7071068,0,0.7071068,31.423,2.067,31.346,USE THEO = YES
                MOVE/CIRCULAR
                HIT/BASIC,NORMAL,0,2,43.5,0,0,1,0.071,2.015,43.387,USE THEO = YES
                MOVE/CIRCULAR
                HIT/BASIC,NORMAL,-30.759,2,30.759,-0.7071068,0,0.7071068,-30.135,1.958,30.171,USE THEO = YES
                MOVE/CIRCULAR
                HIT/BASIC,NORMAL,-43.5,2,0,-1,0,0,-42.547,1.933,-0.023,USE THEO = YES
                MOVE/CIRCULAR
                HIT/BASIC,NORMAL,-30.759,2,-30.759,-0.7071068,0,-0.7071068,-30.322,1.96,-30.364,USE THEO = YES
                MOVE/CIRCULAR
                HIT/BASIC,NORMAL,0,2,-43.5,0,0,-1,0.029,1.998,-43.358,USE THEO = YES
                MOVE/CIRCULAR
                HIT/BASIC,NORMAL,30.759,2,-30.759,0.7071068,0,-0.7071068,31.308,2.082,-31.207,USE THEO = YES
                ENDMEAS/
    A0         =ALIGNMENT/START,RECALL:Tube_NOM, LIST= YES
                ALIGNMENT/TRANS,XAXIS,TUBE_OD
                ALIGNMENT/TRANS,ZAXIS,TUBE_OD
                ALIGNMENT/END
                MOVE/POINT,NORMAL,33.563,-13.362,-34.744
    TUBE_END   =AUTO/PLANE,SHOWALLPARAMS = YES,SHOWHITS = YES
                THEO/0,-3,0,0,-1,0
                ACTL/-0.082,-0.899,0.065,-0.0020684,-0.999712,-0.023909
                TARG/0,-3,0,0,-1,0
                THEO_THICKNESS = 0,RECT,OUTLINE,$
                AUTO MOVE = BOTH,DISTANCE = 10,RMEAS = None,None,None,$
                NUMHITS = 8,NUMROWS = 1,SPACER = 42.5,RADIAL,$
                ANGLE VEC = 1,0,0
                MEAS/PLANE
                HIT/BASIC,42.5,-3,0,0,-1,0,42.399,-0.953,0.017
                HIT/BASIC,30.052,-3,30.052,0,-1,0,29.961,-1.693,30.06
                HIT/BASIC,0,-3,42.5,0,-1,0,-0.093,-1.913,42.518
                HIT/BASIC,-30.052,-3,30.052,0,-1,0,-30.119,-1.551,30.06
                HIT/BASIC,-42.5,-3,0,0,-1,0,-42.579,-0.84,0.028
                HIT/BASIC,-30.052,-3,-30.052,0,-1,0,-30.13,-0.06,-30.031
                HIT/BASIC,0,-3,-42.5,0,-1,0,-0.103,0.082,-42.479
                HIT/BASIC,30.052,-3,-30.052,0,-1,0,29.974,-0.256,-30.032
                ENDMEAS/
    CIR2       =FEAT/CIRCLE,RECT,OUT
                THEO/0,-3,0,0,-1,0,87
                ACTL/-0.006,-0.896,-0.07,-0.0020684,-0.999712,-0.023909,87.031
                CONSTR/CIRCLE,PROJ,TUBE_OD,TUBE_END
    TUBE_END   =ALIGNMENT/START,RECALL:A0, LIST= YES
                ALIGNMENT/LEVEL,YMINUS,TUBE_END
                ALIGNMENT/TRANS,XAXIS,CIR2
                ALIGNMENT/TRANS,YAXIS,CIR2
                ALIGNMENT/TRANS,ZAXIS,CIR2
                ALIGNMENT/END
    E          =AUTO/CYLINDER,SHOWALLPARAMS = NO,SHOWHITS = YES
                THEO/0,25,0,0,-1,0,74.85
                ACTL/73.502,25,-60.005,-0.5842091,-0.7771418,0.2339879,75.069
                TARG/0,25,0,0,-1,0            MEAS/CYLINDER
                HIT/BASIC,0,30,37.425,0,0,-1,-87.464,-189.404,43.073
                HIT/BASIC,-26.463,30,26.463,0.707,0,-0.707,-110.511,-176.121,32.509
                HIT/BASIC,-37.425,30,0,1,0,0,-122.986,-174.568,6.469
                HIT/BASIC,-26.463,30,-26.463,0.707,0,0.707,-117.424,-185.673,-19.448
                HIT/BASIC,0,30,-37.425,0,0,1,-97.259,-202.728,-30.013
                HIT/BASIC,26.463,30,-26.463,-0.707,0,0.707,-74.387,-215.828,-19.279
                HIT/BASIC,37.425,30,0,-1,0,0,-62.169,-217.265,6.533
                HIT/BASIC,26.463,30,26.463,-0.707,0,-0.707,-67.576,-206.355,32.212
                HIT/BASIC,26.463,27.5,26.463,-0.707,0,-0.707,-69.022,-208.327,32.809
                HIT/BASIC,37.425,27.5,0,-1,0,0,-63.625,-219.217,7.117
                HIT/BASIC,26.463,27.5,-26.463,-0.707,0,0.707,-75.867,-217.779,-18.689
                HIT/BASIC,0,27.5,-37.425,0,0,1,-98.735,-204.667,-29.414
                HIT/BASIC,-26.463,27.5,-26.463,0.707,0,0.707,-118.879,-187.61,-18.875
                HIT/BASIC,-37.425,27.5,0,1,0,0,-124.457,-176.513,7.053
                HIT/BASIC,-26.463,27.5,26.463,0.707,0,-0.707,-111.954,-178.067,33.092
                HIT/BASIC,0,27.5,37.425,0,0,-1,-88.925,-191.359,43.647
                HIT/BASIC,0,25,37.425,0,0,-1,-90.384,-193.308,44.224
                HIT/BASIC,-26.463,25,26.463,0.707,0,-0.707,-113.421,-180.012,33.671
                HIT/BASIC,-37.425,25,0,1,0,0,-125.92,-178.438,7.633
                HIT/BASIC,-26.463,25,-26.463,0.707,0,0.707,-120.332,-189.558,-18.32
                HIT/BASIC,0,25,-37.425,0,0,1,-100.182,-206.616,-28.834
                HIT/BASIC,26.463,25,-26.463,-0.707,0,0.707,-77.31,-219.714,-18.095
                HIT/BASIC,37.425,25,0,-1,0,0,-65.081,-221.153,7.699
                HIT/BASIC,26.463,25,26.463,-0.707,0,-0.707,-70.465,-210.272,33.402
                ENDMEAS/
    Last edited by Wingman; 07-26-2007, 10:44 AM.
    Bill Jarrells
    A lie can travel half way around the world while the truth is putting on its shoes. - Mark Twain

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    • #3
      Originally posted by Wingman View Post
      A while back I posted some weird issues with 3.73. I thought I had it solved by figuring out that 3.73 doesn't really like 3.72. Now it appears the issues ARE associated with 3.73 after all. Please review the attached code. When the code starts I am in an alignment that is 'Nominal' for the feature. Tube end is a PLANE at the end of the tube. CIR2 is the Tube OD projected to the Tube End. Tube_End Alignment is self explanatory.

      The Problem is E. I did an Auto Cylinder for E. PLease look at the Theo and the Actual. This is ridiculously impossible.

      In all fairness, if I run the program from the start it will straighten out. However, I cannot restart the program after EACH Measured Feature. I want to continue programming the Part. I now have to Align to E. WTF?

      Code:
      TUBE_END   =AUTO/PLANE,SHOWALLPARAMS = YES,SHOWHITS = YES
                  THEO/0,-3,0,0,-1,0
                  ACTL/-0.082,-0.899,0.065,-0.0020684,-0.999712,-0.023909
                  TARG/0,-3,0,0,-1,0
                  THEO_THICKNESS = 0,RECT,OUTLINE,$
                  AUTO MOVE = BOTH,DISTANCE = 10,RMEAS = None,None,None,$
                  NUMHITS = 8,NUMROWS = 1,SPACER = 42.5,RADIAL,$
                  ANGLE VEC = 1,0,0
                  MEAS/PLANE
                  HIT/BASIC,42.5,-3,0,0,-1,0,42.399,-0.953,0.017
                  HIT/BASIC,30.052,-3,30.052,0,-1,0,29.961,-1.693,30.06
                  HIT/BASIC,0,-3,42.5,0,-1,0,-0.093,-1.913,42.518
                  HIT/BASIC,-30.052,-3,30.052,0,-1,0,-30.119,-1.551,30.06
                  HIT/BASIC,-42.5,-3,0,0,-1,0,-42.579,-0.84,0.028
                  HIT/BASIC,-30.052,-3,-30.052,0,-1,0,-30.13,-0.06,-30.031
                  HIT/BASIC,0,-3,-42.5,0,-1,0,-0.103,0.082,-42.479
                  HIT/BASIC,30.052,-3,-30.052,0,-1,0,29.974,-0.256,-30.032
                  ENDMEAS/
      CIR2       =FEAT/CIRCLE,RECT,OUT
                  THEO/0,-3,0,0,-1,0,87
                  ACTL/-0.006,-0.896,-0.07,-0.0020684,-0.999712,-0.023909,87.031
                  CONSTR/CIRCLE,PROJ,TUBE_OD,TUBE_END
      TUBE_END   =ALIGNMENT/START,RECALL:A0, LIST= YES
                  ALIGNMENT/LEVEL,YMINUS,TUBE_END
                  ALIGNMENT/TRANS,XAXIS,CIR2
                  ALIGNMENT/TRANS,YAXIS,CIR2
                  ALIGNMENT/TRANS,ZAXIS,CIR2
                  ALIGNMENT/END
      E          =AUTO/CYLINDER,SHOWALLPARAMS = NO,SHOWHITS = YES
                  THEO/0,25,0,0,-1,0,74.85
                  ACTL/73.502,25,-60.005,-0.5842091,-0.7771418,0.2339879,75.069
                  TARG/0,25,0,0,-1,0
                  MEAS/CYLINDER
                  HIT/BASIC,0,30,37.425,0,0,-1,-87.464,-189.404,43.073
                  HIT/BASIC,-26.463,30,26.463,0.707,0,-0.707,-110.511,-176.121,32.509
                  HIT/BASIC,-37.425,30,0,1,0,0,-122.986,-174.568,6.469
                  HIT/BASIC,-26.463,30,-26.463,0.707,0,0.707,-117.424,-185.673,-19.448
                  HIT/BASIC,0,30,-37.425,0,0,1,-97.259,-202.728,-30.013
                  HIT/BASIC,26.463,30,-26.463,-0.707,0,0.707,-74.387,-215.828,-19.279
                  HIT/BASIC,37.425,30,0,-1,0,0,-62.169,-217.265,6.533
                  HIT/BASIC,26.463,30,26.463,-0.707,0,-0.707,-67.576,-206.355,32.212
                  HIT/BASIC,26.463,27.5,26.463,-0.707,0,-0.707,-69.022,-208.327,32.809
                  HIT/BASIC,37.425,27.5,0,-1,0,0,-63.625,-219.217,7.117
                  HIT/BASIC,26.463,27.5,-26.463,-0.707,0,0.707,-75.867,-217.779,-18.689
                  HIT/BASIC,0,27.5,-37.425,0,0,1,-98.735,-204.667,-29.414
                  HIT/BASIC,-26.463,27.5,-26.463,0.707,0,0.707,-118.879,-187.61,-18.875
                  HIT/BASIC,-37.425,27.5,0,1,0,0,-124.457,-176.513,7.053
                  HIT/BASIC,-26.463,27.5,26.463,0.707,0,-0.707,-111.954,-178.067,33.092
                  HIT/BASIC,0,27.5,37.425,0,0,-1,-88.925,-191.359,43.647
                  HIT/BASIC,0,25,37.425,0,0,-1,-90.384,-193.308,44.224
                  HIT/BASIC,-26.463,25,26.463,0.707,0,-0.707,-113.421,-180.012,33.671
                  HIT/BASIC,-37.425,25,0,1,0,0,-125.92,-178.438,7.633
                  HIT/BASIC,-26.463,25,-26.463,0.707,0,0.707,-120.332,-189.558,-18.32
                  HIT/BASIC,0,25,-37.425,0,0,1,-100.182,-206.616,-28.834
                  HIT/BASIC,26.463,25,-26.463,-0.707,0,0.707,-77.31,-219.714,-18.095
                  HIT/BASIC,37.425,25,0,-1,0,0,-65.081,-221.153,7.699
                  HIT/BASIC,26.463,25,26.463,-0.707,0,-0.707,-70.465,-210.272,33.402
                  ENDMEAS/
      Thanks, I eagerly await some insight.
      Bill

      Just a quick glance at your code is leading me to guess that maybe your problem lies with a feature and an alignment sharing the same name.

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      • #4
        Originally posted by Goodluck View Post
        Just a quick glance at your code is leading me to guess that maybe your problem lies with a feature and an alignment sharing the same name.
        I saw that afterward and I changed the Alignment to END_TUBE - LOL The problem was still there - but then it might have been a hard core thing once it got rooted in??

        That is exactly where the problem began though.

        Thanks.
        Bill Jarrells
        A lie can travel half way around the world while the truth is putting on its shoes. - Mark Twain

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        • #5
          Looks like I am on my own on this one. Startling that almost 90 people have seen this and nobody has had this issues. Tells me that it is probably specific to Sheffield. Any Sheffield users out there with similar issues of programs losing track of where they are?
          Bill Jarrells
          A lie can travel half way around the world while the truth is putting on its shoes. - Mark Twain

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          • #6
            I too have this problem on occasion.

            I don't know why the problem occurs. It just seems to not recognize the alignments for some reason. Usually, all I have to do 'execute from cursor' starting with the feature before the alignment and when it gets to the problem feature, everything is straigtened out. If the previous feature is a long feature (cylinder with lots of points) I insert a move point and execute starting with it then delete the move point after everthing is straight.

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