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  • Running a Program Not Written on my CMM

    I am trying to run a program supplied by our customer - running in v3.7 MR3.

    The part is approximately a 4"dia x 6" high plastic fuel pump reservoir, which requires several 100mm+ long tips. With the longest tip, I drove the probe around the part, at the various angles - so there is plenty of room around the part. Even though I placed the part in the center of the surface plate, I got a "Machine Parameter Out of Tolerance" error.

    At the stopping point, the Probe Readout window shows X: 200 something, Y: -180 something, Z: 300 something, whereas the stopping feature has THEO TARGETS of around X:20, Y: 10 Z: 10. This feature is very early in the program - before the first alignment.

    I think the zero point of the CMM the program was written on is different from the zero point of my CMM. However, I am not sure what I can do to run the program on my CMM.

    Any ideas?

    Keith

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    Are there not any manual touches and a manual alignment at the beginning of the program? If there are not and the program is all DCC, it is designed to run on their CMM located at a certain spot on their table.
    Look at the 1st DCC alignment and create a manual alignment to go at the very beginning of the program. Touch off just enough places to establish a co-ordinate system, then let it go into DCC and do the DCC alignment and program they supplied. Be sure to make a backup copy of the program before you try this. Pc-dmis tends to crash when you change alignments, especially when there is a lot of code after the alignment that could be altered by the altered alignment. I am leaving for the day now, but I hope this helps. It really should not be too hard to put a manual alignment in the front of this thing. Good Luck!
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    • #3
      Since we're touching this topic a bit ....

      Have any of you ran a program on a bridge machine that was made on a horizontal arm machine ?

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      • #4
        Originally posted by thecoot View Post
        Have any of you ran a program on a bridge machine that was made on a horizontal arm machine ?
        As long as it is a dmis program then you can run on any type machine. The only worries would be move points or clearance planes..Machine travel restrictions.
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        • #5
          Just redo the manual alignments.
          I used to be high on life but I built up a tolerance.

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          • #6
            Originally posted by Underspec View Post
            Just redo the manual alignments.
            And another reason to do the alignments as seperate programs from the check points.
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            Originally posted by AndersI
            I've got one from September 2006 (bug ticket) which has finally been fixed in 2013.

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            • #7
              Originally posted by kv802 View Post
              I am trying to run a program supplied by our customer - running in v3.7 MR3.

              The part is approximately a 4"dia x 6" high plastic fuel pump reservoir, which requires several 100mm+ long tips. With the longest tip, I drove the probe around the part, at the various angles - so there is plenty of room around the part. Even though I placed the part in the center of the surface plate, I got a "Machine Parameter Out of Tolerance" error.

              At the stopping point, the Probe Readout window shows X: 200 something, Y: -180 something, Z: 300 something, whereas the stopping feature has THEO TARGETS of around X:20, Y: 10 Z: 10. This feature is very early in the program - before the first alignment.

              I think the zero point of the CMM the program was written on is different from the zero point of my CMM. However, I am not sure what I can do to run the program on my CMM.

              Any ideas?

              Keith

              What Pcdmis software was the program written with ( PCDMIS CAD ++, PCDMIS CAD, OR PCDMIS Pro) and what software are you using to run it?
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              Sharpe32 Controller
              PH10MQ & ACR1 Toolchanger
              TP20 & TP2 Probes
              Pcdmis CAD++ 3.7mr3, 4.3mr1, 2009mr1, 2010mr1
              Datapage RT 3.33
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              • #8
                Every program should have a manual alignment. If not, then it's referencing an external alignment. Just gotta modify these to work on your machine. Everything else should follow.
                I used to be high on life but I built up a tolerance.

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                PCDMIS CAD++ v2011mr2
                PH10MQ/SP600M


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                • #9
                  Don't forget to change your probe tips... T1A0B0 is not the same on a bridge as it is on a horizontal arm. Bridge points down and on an arm it points straight out... ie. Bridge A0B0 is Arm A90B180

                  Good luck, I have changed many programs for this and it can get quite confusing when you have a lot of probe angles.

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                  • #10
                    On more thing Is there a difference in Table Height clearances?
                    I had a program that would not run from one machine to the other because the probe would not go all the way down to the table on the second machine. And though I did not hit the table I was close enought that it would run into the second machines stops.
                    Tolerance challenged ... Living in the world of unseen lines.

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                    • #11
                      Originally posted by Lee Johnson View Post
                      On more thing Is there a difference in Table Height clearances?
                      I had a program that would not run from one machine to the other because the probe would not go all the way down to the table on the second machine. And though I did not hit the table I was close enought that it would run into the second machines stops.
                      Lee, what is going on here? First Steve, now you.
                      This thread is more than 3 years old.
                      Lately, it occurs to me
                      What a long, strange trip it's been.

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