off set in alignment

[Ken379128]

I am trying to move my trihedron with offsets. I have the orignal alignment put in when I try to off set the circle in the x and y I can only move in the x. When I enter the value for the y the trihendron does not move.

B&S global 3.7 mr2

STARTUP =ALIGNMENT/START,RECALL:, LIST= YES
ALIGNMENT/END
MODE/MANUAL
LOADPROBE/1BY20 MM
TIP/T1A0B0, SHANKIJK=0, 0, 1, ANGLE=0
C1 =COMMENT/YESNO,NO,Would you like to do a manual alignment?
,If "YES" place part on large mag block
,ID end flush to front of block and using the
,1 inch starret gage block turn 90 degrees
,and place against right rail and part flush
,against that.
,Take 3 hits on top of part for plane.
,Take 2 hits front to back right side of part.
,Take 4 hits in ID of part for origin.
IF/C1.INPUT=="YES"
PLN1 =FEAT/PLANE,RECT,TRIANGLE
THEO/403.779,56.838,-501.399,-0.0048943,0.0016688,0.9999866
ACTL/403.779,56.838,-501.399,-0.0048943,0.0016688,0.9999866
MEAS/PLANE,3
HIT/BASIC,NORMAL,401.668,40.949,-501.383,-0.0048943,0.0016688,0.9999866,401.668,40.949,-501.383,USE THEO = YES
HIT/BASIC,NORMAL,406.063,53.988,-501.383,-0.0048943,0.0016688,0.9999866,406.063,53.988,-501.383,USE THEO = YES
HIT/BASIC,NORMAL,403.605,75.577,-501.431,-0.0048943,0.0016688,0.9999866,403.605,75.577,-501.431,USE THEO = YES
ENDMEAS/
LIN1 =FEAT/LINE,RECT,UNBND
THEO/408.964,34.777,-504.004,0.0032705,0.9999947,0
ACTL/408.964,34.777,-504.004,0.0032705,0.9999947,0
MEAS/LINE,2,WORKPLANE
HIT/BASIC,NORMAL,408.964,34.777,-504.004,0.9999947,-0.0032705,0,408.964,34.777,-504.004,USE THEO = YES
HIT/BASIC,NORMAL,409.025,53.245,-504.004,0.9999947,-0.0032705,0,409.025,53.245,-504.004,USE THEO = YES
ENDMEAS/
CIR1 =FEAT/CIRCLE,RECT,IN,LEAST_SQR
THEO/399.21,29.123,-504.535,0,0,1,11.004
ACTL/399.21,29.123,-504.535,0,0,1,11.004
MEAS/CIRCLE,4,WORKPLANE
HIT/BASIC,NORMAL,393.711,28.946,-504.535,0.9994803,0.0322366,0,393.711,28.946,-504.535,USE THEO = YES
MOVE/CIRCULAR
HIT/BASIC,NORMAL,399.054,34.623,-504.535,0.0282532,-0.9996008,0,399.054,34.623,-504.535,USE THEO = YES
MOVE/CIRCULAR
HIT/BASIC,NORMAL,404.691,28.654,-504.535,-0.9963559,0.0852927,0,404.691,28.654,-504.535,USE THEO = YES
MOVE/CIRCULAR
HIT/BASIC,NORMAL,399.469,23.628,-504.535,-0.0470571,0.9988922,0,399.469,23.628,-504.535,USE THEO = YES
ENDMEAS/
A0 =ALIGNMENT/START,RECALL:STARTUP, LIST= YES
ALIGNMENT/LEVEL,ZPLUS,PLN1
ALIGNMENT/ROTATE,YPLUS,TO,LIN1,ABOUT,ZPLUS
ALIGNMENT/TRANS,XAXIS,CIR1
ALIGNMENT/TRANS,YAXIS,CIR1
ALIGNMENT/TRANS,ZAXIS,CIR1
ALIGNMENT/END
END_IF/
C2 =COMMENT/YESNO,NO,Would you like to do a auto alignment?
,If "YES" the CMM will move DCC.
,The auto alignment will use the same
,features as the manual.
IF/C2.INPUT=="YES"
PLN2 =FEAT/PLANE,RECT,TRIANGLE
THEO/4.697,23.997,3.157,0.003073,-0.0006057,0.9999951
ACTL/4.697,23.997,3.157,0.003073,-0.0006057,0.9999951
MEAS/PLANE,4
HIT/BASIC,NORMAL,0.918,11.04,3.16,0.003073,-0.0006057,0.9999951,0.918,11.04,3.16,USE THEO = YES
HIT/BASIC,NORMAL,7.7,11.065,3.141,0.003073,-0.0006057,0.9999951,7.7,11.065,3.141,USE THEO = YES
HIT/BASIC,NORMAL,7.615,36.951,3.154,0.003073,-0.0006057,0.9999951,7.615,36.951,3.154,USE THEO = YES
HIT/BASIC,NORMAL,2.556,36.932,3.173,0.003073,-0.0006057,0.9999951,2.556,36.932,3.173,USE THEO = YES
ENDMEAS/
LIN2 =FEAT/LINE,RECT,UNBND
THEO/9.736,5.527,0.149,-0.0000336,1,0
ACTL/9.736,5.527,0.149,-0.0000336,1,0
MEAS/LINE,3,WORKPLANE
HIT/BASIC,NORMAL,9.736,5.527,0.149,1,0.0000336,0,9.736 ,5.527,0.149,USE THEO = YES
HIT/BASIC,NORMAL,9.734,13.2,0.162,1,0.0000336,0,9.734, 13.2,0.162,USE THEO = YES
HIT/BASIC,NORMAL,9.735,25.34,0.182,1,0.0000336,0,9.735 ,25.34,0.182,USE THEO = YES
ENDMEAS/
CIR2 =FEAT/CIRCLE,RECT,IN,LEAST_SQR
THEO/-0.004,0.001,-0.515,0,0,1,11.004
ACTL/-0.004,0.001,-0.515,0,0,1,11.004
MEAS/CIRCLE,6,WORKPLANE
HIT/BASIC,NORMAL,-5.497,-0.322,-0.493,0.9982677,0.0588361,0,-5.497,-0.322,-0.493,USE THEO = YES
MOVE/CIRCULAR
HIT/BASIC,NORMAL,-3.817,3.967,-0.494,0.6930492,-0.7208903,0,-3.817,3.967,-0.494,USE THEO = YES
MOVE/CIRCULAR
HIT/BASIC,NORMAL,1.78,5.206,-0.517,-0.3242304,-0.9459781,0,1.78,5.206,-0.517,USE THEO = YES
MOVE/CIRCULAR
HIT/BASIC,NORMAL,5.448,0.75,-0.54,-0.9907007,-0.1360593,0,5.448,0.75,-0.54,USE THEO = YES
MOVE/CIRCULAR
HIT/BASIC,NORMAL,1.896,-5.161,-0.533,-0.3453107,0.9384884,0,1.896,-5.161,-0.533,USE THEO = YES
MOVE/CIRCULAR
HIT/BASIC,NORMAL,-2.43,-4.937,-0.514,0.4409024,0.897555,0,-2.43,-4.937,-0.514,USE THEO = YES
ENDMEAS/
A1 =ALIGNMENT/START,RECALL:A0, LIST= YES
ALIGNMENT/LEVEL,ZPLUS,PLN2
ALIGNMENT/ROTATE,YPLUS,TO,LIN2,ABOUT,ZPLUS
ALIGNMENT/TRANS,XAXIS,CIR2
ALIGNMENT/TRANS,YAXIS,CIR2
ALIGNMENT/END
END_IF/
COMMENT/OPER,NO,When you hit "ok" CMM will measure
A2 =ALIGNMENT/START,RECALL:A1, LIST= YES
ALIGNMENT/TRANS,XAXIS,CIR2
ALIGNMENT/TRANS_OFFSET,XAXIS,-44
ALIGNMENT/TRANS,YAXIS,CIR2
ALIGNMENT/TRANS_OFFSET,YAXIS,36.5
ALIGNMENT/END

[Wingman]

Not sure if it is related to your issue but this happens once in a while. Try zooming to extents or refreshing the graphic screen. Also, if you 'run' that section of code all should be well.
Bill

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STARTUP    =ALIGNMENT/START,RECALL:, LIST= YES
            ALIGNMENT/END
            MODE/MANUAL
            LOADPROBE/1BY20 MM
            TIP/T1A0B0, SHANKIJK=0, 0, 1, ANGLE=0
C1         =COMMENT/YESNO,NO,Would you like to do a manual alignment?
                            ,If "YES" place part on large mag block
                            ,ID end flush to front of block and using the
                            ,1 inch starret gage block turn 90 degrees
                            ,and place against right rail and part flush 
                            ,against that.
                            ,

Not related to your problem, but be carefull when using magnetic blocks if you have the garden variety TP20. Get too close to the magnet and it won't register hits. I've actually had results get a little wonky when I was measuring a bore inside a magnetic part. It took the hits fine but they were not 'good' hits.

[Ken379128]

I will try that wingman
I mentioned the large mag block before :-) but I have a TP200

[ag162]

Hello,
In alignments I have used many different methods of moving or skewing my final alignment in an effort to tighten my datums up, if the tooling spheres or the fixture base is not good enough. You can create an offset point from the circle in the x,y,z amounts and make that your new origin. You can also create offset points from the spheres or points to skew the alignment a little (by using the offset points in the rotation).

A.Gore

[Ken379128]

hahaha I love PC DMIS I just went in to try it again and it worked fine even though I did nothing different. I think it must have been just the graphics window not showing it working. Oh well all is good now, well it was before and it is 40 mintue till quittin time:-D

[Wingman]

hahaha I love PC DMIS I just went in to try it again and it worked fine even though I did nothing different. I think it must have been just the graphics window not showing it working. Oh well all is good now, well it was before and it is 40 mintue till quittin time:-D

That's what I was trying to explain. Sometimes it just 'happens' and it looks weird but it still works when run etc. Strange thing the Demon - LOL

[1CMM4ME]

Don't use Mag Blocks. They are a no..no. At least for me they were. Like posted before, the machine will not register sometimes. Maybe if your utilizing a carbon fiber long shank tip, you can get by with it. I just have learned already to stay away from the mags. Just use conventional fixturing if possible.