Clear plane move

**Matthew D. Hoedeman** · 06-13-2007, 03:35 PM

Don't use the pass-through. It will give you nothing but trouble.

1) If you are doing this with Auto Features (ctrl-F), you can do this by using the automove of the feature, if you are measuring 0.5 below the surface and want to go to 0.25 above, use an automove of 0.75.

**#2#** · 06-13-2007, 03:45 PM

Originally posted by Aitch View Post

I'm back.

Finally got my hole measured at -.5 to the Z plane. Now trying to move to a .25 clear plane for the second of four -.5 holes.
I put the cursor at the end of the operation, hit F10, and try to set a clear plane.

I've tried about all the iterations I can think of and still the probe will not raise above -.3 before it moves to the next feature. This is a problem because there are ribs in the way.

I've set the active plane at both Z plus and minus, put in values from 0 to -.3 to .25 and set values in the Z plus move through plane at .25. Hit apply and ok.

Nothing changes. Can't figure what I'm doing wrong.

I think you will want to put the cursor right after your first hole then F10 and set the clearplane to .25, hit apply and hit ok.

Or, do as Matt suggests

Or, use movepoints

Code:

move/point,cir1.x,cir1.y,.25

Will move you .25 inch above z=0 at the center of cir1 (assuming cir1 has a vector of 0,0,1

That code may not be 100% correct but you get the idea.

Oh, and if your other holes are also using find hole, you just need a move out of the current hole and then because of the find hole it will move to your prehit distance above the center of the next hole.

**Wingman** · 06-13-2007, 03:48 PM

What you are doing should work though. Make sure you check the check box Clearance Planes Active (ON). You should set to Z Plus and enter 0.3 and it should work.

**Wingman** · 06-13-2007, 03:52 PM

[QUOTE=Matthew D. Hoedeman;65238]Don't use the pass-through. It will give you nothing but trouble.

I never use pass through. I read about it and it did not make any sense to me anyway. What is it 'supposed' to do?

**Matthew D. Hoedeman** · 06-13-2007, 03:56 PM

[QUOTE=Wingman;65252]

Originally posted by Matthew D. Hoedeman View Post

Don't use the pass-through. It will give you nothing but trouble.

I never use pass through. I read about it and it did not make any sense to me anyway. What is it 'supposed' to do?

What it is supposed to do is make Pcdmis move 2 clearance planes, lets say the main plane is Z1200 nd the pass-through is X500. IT should move from it's current position to X500 (pass-through) then up to Z1200. At least, I think that is what it is supposed to do.

**Boomer** · 06-13-2007, 04:07 PM

Pass through

Matt is correct,

it will let you transition from checking holes with a a90b180 in the y- plane to checking holes in the x- plane with a90b90, with only a clearplane move.

Example:
PL_M =FEAT/PLANE,RECT,TRIANGLE
THEO/-0.089,0.096,0,0,0,1
ACTL/12.3027,0.5064,-21.1266,-0.0000027,0.0000337,1
MEAS/PLANE,4
HIT/BASIC,NORMAL,-6.0863,6.0864,0,0,0,1,10.7521,2.8437,-21.1267,USE THEO = YES
HIT/BASIC,NORMAL,5.6204,6.4702,0,0,0,1,14.8761,1.6714,-21.1267,USE THEO = YES
HIT/BASIC,NORMAL,6.1413,-6.0315,0,0,0,1,14.8759,-1.9765,-21.1265,USE THEO = YES
HIT/BASIC,NORMAL,-6.0314,-6.1412,0,0,0,1,8.7067,-0.5131,-21.1266,USE THEO = YES
ENDMEAS/
OD_M =FEAT/CIRCLE,RECT,OUT,LEAST_SQR
THEO/0,0,-0.2645,0,0,1,22.5
ACTL/14.6366,8.4575,-21.3798,0,0,1,22.5003
MEAS/CIRCLE,4,WORKPLANE
HIT/BASIC,NORMAL,11.1974,1.0864,-0.2094,0.9953261,0.0965709,0,4.9319,2.7672,-21.3795,USE THEO = YES
MOVE/CIRCULAR
HIT/BASIC,NORMAL,-0.5375,-11.2372,-0.2853,-0.0477799,-0.9988579,0,10.2039,-1.8831,-21.3799,USE THEO = YES
MOVE/CIRCULAR
HIT/BASIC,NORMAL,-11.0323,-2.2023,-0.239,-0.9806512,-0.1957632,0,17.6122,-2.3915,-21.3799,USE THEO = YES
MOVE/CIRCULAR
HIT/BASIC,NORMAL,0.5084,11.2385,-0.3242,0.0451891,0.9989785,0,24.5776,3.19,-21.3799,USE THEO = YES
ENDMEAS/
TIP/T1A90B90, SHANKIJK=-1, 0, 0, ANGLE=90
KEY_M =FEAT/LINE,RECT,UNBND
THEO/-10,-1.2826,-2.23,0,1,0
ACTL/4.6862,4.7119,-23.4095,-0.013397,0.9999103,0
MEAS/LINE,2,WORKPLANE
HIT/BASIC,NORMAL,-10,-1.2826,-2.23,-1,0,0,4.6862,4.7119,-23.4095,USE THEO = YES
HIT/BASIC,NORMAL,-10,2.6321,-2.23,-1,0,0,4.5832,12.3957,-23.361,USE THEO = YES
ENDMEAS/
MAN_ALIGN =ALIGNMENT/START,RECALL:STARTUP, LIST= YES
ALIGNMENT/LEVEL,ZPLUS,PL_M
ALIGNMENT/ROTATE,YPLUS,TO,KEY_M,ABOUT,ZPLUS
ALIGNMENT/TRANS,XAXIS,OD_M
ALIGNMENT/TRANS,YAXIS,OD_M
ALIGNMENT/TRANS,ZAXIS,PL_M
ALIGNMENT/END
MODE/DCC
COMMENT/OPER,NO,.
,DCC MODE
,.
CLEARP/XMINUS,-11.5,ZPLUS,4
KEY =FEAT/LINE,RECT,UNBND
THEO/-10,-1.2826,-2.23,0,1,0
ACTL/-9.9996,-1.2833,-2.2316,0.0000015,1,0
MEAS/LINE,4,WORKPLANE
MOVE/CLEARPLANE
HIT/BASIC,NORMAL,-10,-1.2826,-2.23,-1,0,0,-9.9997,-1.2833,-2.2315,USE THEO = YES
HIT/BASIC,NORMAL,-10,0.5,-2.23,-1,0,0,-9.9996,0.4989,-2.2316,USE THEO = YES
HIT/BASIC,NORMAL,-10,1.3272,-2.23,-1,0,0,-9.9996,1.3261,-2.2316,USE THEO = YES
HIT/BASIC,NORMAL,-10,2.6321,-2.23,-1,0,0,-9.9997,2.6314,-2.2315,USE THEO = YES
ENDMEAS/
CLEARP/ZPLUS,5,ZPLUS,5
MOVE/CLEARPLANE
TIP/T1A0B0, SHANKIJK=0.0023, -0.001, 1, ANGLE=3.3751
PL =FEAT/PLANE,RECT,TRIANGLE
THEO/0.0128,0.2609,0,0,0,1
ACTL/0.0127,0.2608,0.0001,0.0000084,-0.0000101,1
MEAS/PLANE,4
MOVE/CLEARPLANE
HIT/BASIC,NORMAL,5.9179,7.6562,0,0,0,1,5.9179,7.6559,0 .0001,USE THEO = YES
HIT/BASIC,NORMAL,-5.948,7.6005,0,0,0,1,-5.948,7.6006,0.0002,USE THEO = YES
HIT/BASIC,NORMAL,-5.8366,-7.1066,0,0,0,1,-5.8368,-7.1064,0,USE THEO = YES
HIT/BASIC,NORMAL,5.9179,-7.1066,0,0,0,1,5.9178,-7.1069,0,USE THEO = YES
ENDMEAS/
CLEARP/ZPLUS,0.5,ZPLUS,0.5
MOVE/CLEARPLANE
OD =AUTO/CIRCLE,SHOWALLPARAMS = YES,SHOWHITS = NO
THEO/0,0,-0.25,0,0,1,22.5,0
ACTL/0.0005,-0.0004,-0.25,0,0,1,22.5009,0
TARG/0,0,-0.25,0,0,1
THEO_THICKNESS = 0,RECT,OUT,CIRCULAR,LEAST_SQR,ONERROR = NO,$
AUTO MOVE = NO,DISTANCE = 0,RMEAS = None,None,None,$
READ POS = NO,FIND HOLE = NO,REMEASURE = NO,$
NUMHITS = 18,INIT = 0,PERM = 0,SPACER = 0,PITCH = 0,$
START ANG = 0,END ANG = 360,DEPTH = 0,$
ANGLE VEC = 1,0,0
AUTO_ALIGN =ALIGNMENT/START,RECALL:MAN_ALIGN, LIST= YES
ALIGNMENT/LEVEL,ZPLUS,PL
ALIGNMENT/ROTATE,YPLUS,TO,KEY,ABOUT,ZPLUS
ALIGNMENT/TRANS,XAXIS,OD
ALIGNMENT/TRANS,YAXIS,OD
ALIGNMENT/TRANS,ZAXIS,PL
ALIGNMENT/END
SCANSPEED/ 40
MOVE/CLEARPLANE
OD_SCN =BASICSCAN/CIRCLE,SHOWHITS=NO,SHOWALLPARAMS=NO
ENDSCAN
OD_FILTER =FEAT/SET,RECT
THEO/-0.0144,-0.0107,-0.1002,0,0,1
ACTL/-0.0143,-0.0107,-0.1002,0,0,1
CONSTR/SET,FILTER,GAUSSIAN,POLAR,OD_SCN,
FILTER/ON,WIDTH=30,UPR=50,OUTLIER_REMOVAL/OFF,3
OD_CIR =FEAT/CIRCLE,RECT,OUT,LEAST_SQR
THEO/0,0,-0.1002,0,0,1,22.5
ACTL/0,0.0001,-0.1002,0,0,1,22.5009
CONSTR/CIRCLE,BF,OD_FILTER,,
OUTLIER_REMOVAL/ON,3
FILTER/OFF,UPR=0
OD_SCN_ALIGN=ALIGNMENT/START,RECALL:AUTO_ALIGN, LIST= YES
ALIGNMENT/TRANS,XAXIS,OD_CIR
ALIGNMENT/TRANS,YAXIS,OD_CIR
ALIGNMENT/END

**#2#** · 06-13-2007, 05:10 PM

Originally posted by Boomer View Post

Matt is correct,

it will let you transition from checking holes with a a90b180 in the y- plane to checking holes in the x- plane with a90b90, with only a clearplane move.

Example:

Code:

PL_M       =FEAT/PLANE,RECT,TRIANGLE
            THEO/-0.089,0.096,0,0,0,1
            ACTL/12.3027,0.5064,-21.1266,-0.0000027,0.0000337,1
            MEAS/PLANE,4
            HIT/BASIC,NORMAL,-6.0863,6.0864,0,0,0,1,10.7521,2.8437,-21.1267,USE THEO = YES
            HIT/BASIC,NORMAL,5.6204,6.4702,0,0,0,1,14.8761,1.6714,-21.1267,USE THEO = YES
            HIT/BASIC,NORMAL,6.1413,-6.0315,0,0,0,1,14.8759,-1.9765,-21.1265,USE THEO = YES
            HIT/BASIC,NORMAL,-6.0314,-6.1412,0,0,0,1,8.7067,-0.5131,-21.1266,USE THEO = YES
            ENDMEAS/
OD_M       =FEAT/CIRCLE,RECT,OUT,LEAST_SQR
            THEO/0,0,-0.2645,0,0,1,22.5
            ACTL/14.6366,8.4575,-21.3798,0,0,1,22.5003
            MEAS/CIRCLE,4,WORKPLANE
            HIT/BASIC,NORMAL,11.1974,1.0864,-0.2094,0.9953261,0.0965709,0,4.9319,2.7672,-21.3795,USE THEO = YES
            MOVE/CIRCULAR
            HIT/BASIC,NORMAL,-0.5375,-11.2372,-0.2853,-0.0477799,-0.9988579,0,10.2039,-1.8831,-21.3799,USE THEO = YES
            MOVE/CIRCULAR
            HIT/BASIC,NORMAL,-11.0323,-2.2023,-0.239,-0.9806512,-0.1957632,0,17.6122,-2.3915,-21.3799,USE THEO = YES
            MOVE/CIRCULAR
            HIT/BASIC,NORMAL,0.5084,11.2385,-0.3242,0.0451891,0.9989785,0,24.5776,3.19,-21.3799,USE THEO = YES
            ENDMEAS/
            TIP/T1A90B90, SHANKIJK=-1, 0, 0, ANGLE=90
KEY_M      =FEAT/LINE,RECT,UNBND
            THEO/-10,-1.2826,-2.23,0,1,0
            ACTL/4.6862,4.7119,-23.4095,-0.013397,0.9999103,0
            MEAS/LINE,2,WORKPLANE
            HIT/BASIC,NORMAL,-10,-1.2826,-2.23,-1,0,0,4.6862,4.7119,-23.4095,USE THEO = YES
            HIT/BASIC,NORMAL,-10,2.6321,-2.23,-1,0,0,4.5832,12.3957,-23.361,USE THEO = YES
            ENDMEAS/
MAN_ALIGN  =ALIGNMENT/START,RECALL:STARTUP, LIST= YES
            ALIGNMENT/LEVEL,ZPLUS,PL_M
            ALIGNMENT/ROTATE,YPLUS,TO,KEY_M,ABOUT,ZPLUS
            ALIGNMENT/TRANS,XAXIS,OD_M
            ALIGNMENT/TRANS,YAXIS,OD_M
            ALIGNMENT/TRANS,ZAXIS,PL_M
            ALIGNMENT/END
            MODE/DCC
            COMMENT/OPER,NO,.
                           ,DCC MODE
                           ,.
            CLEARP/XMINUS,-11.5,ZPLUS,4
KEY        =FEAT/LINE,RECT,UNBND
            THEO/-10,-1.2826,-2.23,0,1,0
            ACTL/-9.9996,-1.2833,-2.2316,0.0000015,1,0
            MEAS/LINE,4,WORKPLANE
            MOVE/CLEARPLANE
            HIT/BASIC,NORMAL,-10,-1.2826,-2.23,-1,0,0,-9.9997,-1.2833,-2.2315,USE THEO = YES
            HIT/BASIC,NORMAL,-10,0.5,-2.23,-1,0,0,-9.9996,0.4989,-2.2316,USE THEO = YES
            HIT/BASIC,NORMAL,-10,1.3272,-2.23,-1,0,0,-9.9996,1.3261,-2.2316,USE THEO = YES
            HIT/BASIC,NORMAL,-10,2.6321,-2.23,-1,0,0,-9.9997,2.6314,-2.2315,USE THEO = YES
            ENDMEAS/
            CLEARP/ZPLUS,5,ZPLUS,5
            MOVE/CLEARPLANE
            TIP/T1A0B0, SHANKIJK=0.0023, -0.001, 1, ANGLE=3.3751
PL         =FEAT/PLANE,RECT,TRIANGLE
            THEO/0.0128,0.2609,0,0,0,1
            ACTL/0.0127,0.2608,0.0001,0.0000084,-0.0000101,1
            MEAS/PLANE,4
            MOVE/CLEARPLANE
            HIT/BASIC,NORMAL,5.9179,7.6562,0,0,0,1,5.9179,7.6559,0.0001,USE THEO = YES
            HIT/BASIC,NORMAL,-5.948,7.6005,0,0,0,1,-5.948,7.6006,0.0002,USE THEO = YES
            HIT/BASIC,NORMAL,-5.8366,-7.1066,0,0,0,1,-5.8368,-7.1064,0,USE THEO = YES
            HIT/BASIC,NORMAL,5.9179,-7.1066,0,0,0,1,5.9178,-7.1069,0,USE THEO = YES
            ENDMEAS/
            CLEARP/ZPLUS,0.5,ZPLUS,0.5
            MOVE/CLEARPLANE
OD         =AUTO/CIRCLE,SHOWALLPARAMS = YES,SHOWHITS = NO
            THEO/0,0,-0.25,0,0,1,22.5,0
            ACTL/0.0005,-0.0004,-0.25,0,0,1,22.5009,0
            TARG/0,0,-0.25,0,0,1
            THEO_THICKNESS = 0,RECT,OUT,CIRCULAR,LEAST_SQR,ONERROR = NO,$
            AUTO MOVE = NO,DISTANCE = 0,RMEAS = None,None,None,$
            READ POS = NO,FIND HOLE = NO,REMEASURE = NO,$
            NUMHITS = 18,INIT = 0,PERM = 0,SPACER = 0,PITCH = 0,$
            START ANG = 0,END ANG = 360,DEPTH = 0,$
            ANGLE VEC = 1,0,0
AUTO_ALIGN =ALIGNMENT/START,RECALL:MAN_ALIGN, LIST= YES
            ALIGNMENT/LEVEL,ZPLUS,PL
            ALIGNMENT/ROTATE,YPLUS,TO,KEY,ABOUT,ZPLUS
            ALIGNMENT/TRANS,XAXIS,OD
            ALIGNMENT/TRANS,YAXIS,OD
            ALIGNMENT/TRANS,ZAXIS,PL
            ALIGNMENT/END
            SCANSPEED/ 40
            MOVE/CLEARPLANE
OD_SCN     =BASICSCAN/CIRCLE,SHOWHITS=NO,SHOWALLPARAMS=NO
            ENDSCAN
OD_FILTER  =FEAT/SET,RECT
            THEO/-0.0144,-0.0107,-0.1002,0,0,1
            ACTL/-0.0143,-0.0107,-0.1002,0,0,1
            CONSTR/SET,FILTER,GAUSSIAN,POLAR,OD_SCN,
            FILTER/ON,WIDTH=30,UPR=50,OUTLIER_REMOVAL/OFF,3
OD_CIR     =FEAT/CIRCLE,RECT,OUT,LEAST_SQR
            THEO/0,0,-0.1002,0,0,1,22.5
            ACTL/0,0.0001,-0.1002,0,0,1,22.5009
            CONSTR/CIRCLE,BF,OD_FILTER,,
            OUTLIER_REMOVAL/ON,3
            FILTER/OFF,UPR=0
OD_SCN_ALIGN=ALIGNMENT/START,RECALL:AUTO_ALIGN, LIST= YES
            ALIGNMENT/TRANS,XAXIS,OD_CIR
            ALIGNMENT/TRANS,YAXIS,OD_CIR
            ALIGNMENT/END

There, that's better. All I did was wrap it in [code][/code] to make it easier to look at.

**Boomer** · 06-13-2007, 05:23 PM

Originally posted by Goodluck View Post

There, that's better. All I did was wrap it in [code][/code] to make it easier to look at.

Thanks...

i didnt know about that option!!

**#2#** · 06-13-2007, 05:34 PM

Originally posted by Boomer View Post

Thanks...

i didnt know about that option!!

No problem, the [code][/code] tags make it align like we are all used to seeing in PC-DMIS. I at least find it easier to look at since there is more definition between features and such.

**Aitch** · 06-13-2007, 05:50 PM

Still can't get it to move to clearplane .25 above Z zero.
XY zero is in the center of this mostly symmetrical part.

After measuring the first hole at Z -.5, I manually raised the probe before executing the move to the second hole also located at -.5.
To get to the second hole I must pass from Z minus to Z plus clearplane and from Y minus to Y plus.
My entry looks like this between the two holes:

HIT/BASIC, --(hits)--
ENDMEAS/
CLEARP/Z PLUS, 0.25, Z PLUS 0
MOVE/CLEARPLANE

I'm still doing something wrong.

**JamesMannes** · 06-13-2007, 07:31 PM

If you are going from the bottom of your part (-z) to the top of your part (+z) it is best to use movepoints to get from the bottom to the top. For side to side and "up and over" clearplanes aren't too hard to master.

Please see this link for a document I made for in-house people. I t may help you.

Go HERE

**joe.sha** · 06-14-2007, 06:04 AM

You only want to move in the Z plus so try giving your pass through plane a value of 0.25.

**Rich P** · 06-14-2007, 03:05 PM

read James training Doc it explains the clear plane function well

HIT/BASIC, --(hits)--
ENDMEAS/
CLEARP/Z PLUS, 0.25, Z PLUS 0
MOVE/CLEARPLANE

in the above code
CLEARP/Z PLUS, 0.25, Z PLUS 0
MOVE/CLEARPLANE
this needs to be before the measured hit
in auto features move plane comes the line before the feature execution
in user created features the clearplane is 1st move inside before hits
in these you can also insert clearplanes in between hits or change a circular move to a clearplane if hit/retract is not sufficient such as an OD with projections on it

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