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    Print was changed from circular runout to total-runout.

    Never got a straight answer as to why PCD wouldn't do circ runout of a pln in legacy...I definitely understand what people (specifically kirby) was saying about a pln being 3d and circular runout being 2d... but you CAN measure circ runout on a plate with an indicator so i was surprised that the software wouldn't let me duplicate this w/o having to do a workaround. Oh well, thanks for all who offered input
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    PC DMIS 2020 R2 SP4

    I use legacy dimensions.

    I have measured a plane. My print requires I report the runout of that plane back to some datums.

    I click "runout", then realize PC DMIS doesn't show me any planes in the box, it only allows me to pick from circles, cylinders, and lines in my prg. I have to switch out of legacy and into xact (or whatever tis called now) and only from in there can I select the plane I want.

    Why won't it let me dimension the runout of a plane using legacy dimensions? IK its called circular runout but it is very well established in the industry to measure the circular runout of a planar surface on a surface plate (with the corrct fixturing & using your indicator correctly), why wouldn't PCD allow for this?
    Last edited by DAN_M; 01-12-2021, 03:28 PM.
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  • #2
    Did you try total Runout? I don't know cause the machine is busy, but runout is technically 2D. I'm surprised it will let you pick cylinders, I haven't used legacy for years.
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    • DAN_M
      DAN_M commented
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      No. Customer wants circular-runout, will bounce it back if I do total.

    • DAN_M
      DAN_M commented
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      You can absolutely measure this via plate layout, circular OR total runout, IDK why the software won't let me do it. =(

  • #3
    What sort of plane are you using?

    Is it a circular/radial auto plane?
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    • DAN_M
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      autoplane, centered around my origin at 0,0,0 with clean vectors 0,0,1, radial and yes circular hit path

  • #4
    Well like I said Runout is 2D and a plane is a 3D feature, really surprised it will let you pick a Cylinder, If you were using an indicator on the Lathe, a Runout callout is technically telling you you can't move your indicator around, so you would be checking somewhat a line in a circular rotation. so I get why it won't let you. That's why I believe it has to be a total.
    (In Memory of my Loving wife, "Ronda" who I lost March 7, 2016. I love you baby.)
    They say "Nobody's Perfect." I must be Nobody.

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    • #5
      As a workaround, after your alignment, just take points in a circular pattern and report the difference between the high and low points? "Should" give the same answers.

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      • #6
        V3.7 lets me do runout of a plane, but there is no circular runout that I can see offered.
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        Originally posted by AndersI
        I've got one from September 2006 (bug ticket) which has finally been fixed in 2013.

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        • #7
          So Danny boy, what's the verdict?
          (In Memory of my Loving wife, "Ronda" who I lost March 7, 2016. I love you baby.)
          They say "Nobody's Perfect." I must be Nobody.

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          • DAN_M
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            updating now, am all set as of a few mins ago. thanks kirby

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