Finally Setting Master Probe

[stkenitz]

After scouring this forum for a while I came across the "Master Probe" topic. We never have used this here, however we don't run any programs that have multiple probe setups. Before I run my programs, I usually build/load the probe, calibrate (typically with the sphere moving location) tips and A0B0, and run the program.

Is that fine? And the master probe cal is mainly for programs with several probes?

Or should I create a "Master Probe" probe file, and start from there?

Not sure what to do exactly.

Edit - Just to have it, I created a Master Probe that is 5x21mm. Attached are the calibration results.

[ClayT]

something...

The theory of the Master Probe is; if you add a probe (angle) to your collection of angles for a given probe build, you only have to qualify the new angle.

If you're building and qualifying tips for every job, the Master is of no use.
(ed: and a waste of a perfectly good module, since the Master should not be used in production)

An example of where the Master is used:

We have a build with around a hundred tip angles. Two hours later, all hundred are qualified.
If we need to add an angle, we could spend two hours and qualify all 101 angles again, so the new angle(s) relate to the previously qualified angles.

Or...

Load the Master and find the Qual sphere with that. (YES, ball has moved)
Then load the probe and qualify the one new angle (NO, ball has not moved).

Because your "Master" probe is always the same, the software can relate the new XYZ location of the Qual Sphere back to the last XYZ location of the Qual sphere.
This allows the software to relate all the tips that were qualified previously to the new tips you are qualifying.

The other place a Master comes in handy is if you run two or more different builds in the same program.
In order to run multiple builds together, they all must be qualified together.

Suppose you bust one of the tips.
After replacing the tip, you have to qualify that build, along with any other build that you want to run together in the same program.

Or...
Load the Master and find the ball. (YES, ball has moved)

Now you can load and qualify (NO, ball has not moved) just the busted probe's angles and they will all be related back to your other builds.

[Kp61dude!]

Someone had some fine coffee this morning! (hey! you're in Socal, cool!).

[SingularitY]

Suppose you bust one of the tips.
After replacing the tip, you have to qualify that build, along with any other build that you want to run together in the same program.

Or...
Load the Master and find the ball. (YES, ball has moved)

Now you can load and qualify (NO, ball has not moved) just the busted probe's angles and they will all be related back to your other builds.

I use a master probe where I'm at, but be careful during crashes or tip breaking. Just because one tip breaks doesnt mean you only have to qualify that tip. Crashes can throw other tips out of calibration. Sometimes a lower matrix is needed if the crash is bad enough. (If applicable.) If there is a crash bad enough to break a tip, I automatically throw the machine in a full calibration. If a tip didn't break, I have a user made program that verifies certain tip angle of each tip. If any of those tips fail our internal tolerances, we throw it in a full calibration.

[ClayT]

Well, at that point we're not throwing the other tips out of calibration, we're knocking the machine around so that the other tips are no longer in the same relative place.

It's up to the operator to understand what happened and what the possible ramifications are.
Splattering a 1mmx20mm tungsten shank does not require the same force as fish hooking a 4mmx20mm.