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    Hello all
    We have been runing pc dmis 2010 since we bought this machine and we re currently discussing if we should upgrade to 2019.
    Is 2019 acctaully better? We dont have any scanning head or do any offline simulation so i havent really seen any "good" reasons to upgrade.

    Is there any functions you use daily that isnt included in older versions? If so, what?
    Is there less pc dmis crashes ?
    Will our programs from 2010 work as they used to if we upgrade?

  • #2
    Get ready for new icons for everything. That going to be the biggest change I think. I've never used 2010 but from 2015 to 2019r2 the icons were the biggest change for me. I do like 2019r2 a lot though.

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    • #3
      2010 was the biggest piece of trash that was ever released on unfortunate programmers......All kinds of good additions in the last 10 years, go for it !

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      • vpt.se
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        In my opinion v4.1 were way worse than 2010... Much worse.

      • AndersI
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        4.1 was just a preview of intent...

      • vpt.se
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        That intent could have been interpreted as a declaration of war (by users) ;P

    • #4
      2010 was fun!

      It really depends on the needs of your company. Do you use a lot of GD&T? If so, when the standards change and Hexagon upgrades along with the standards. So jumping to 2019 would be worth it. if you are using the CMM for just linear dimensions, then an upgrade may not be worth it. There is a nice Size dimension that I use quite a bit. They added a width function. And being able to select HIT targets within a feature is nice.

      Programs from 2010 "should" work in 2019. However, always always always hover the E-stop just in case. I believe it was version 2015.1 when the probe file formatting changed. Folder names and locations have changed. I know they used a lot of "WAI" for folder naming conventions, but now they use straight "Hexagon" for folder names.

      That is just a couple of things I can think of.

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      • #5
        2010 was fun!
        I concur, Barry!.....but.... remember all the bowls we had to eat of cereal-ization errors to no end??

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        • #6
          2010 was bad, I think anything before 2012MR1 (with the random exception of 2009MR1) was shocking.

          There's lots of good new stuff in more recent versions but stability would be the main justification.

          You'll quickly get used to the new icons..

          Automettech - Automated Metrology Technology

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          • vpt.se
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            +1

            (character count fill)

          • kingsld1
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            Don't know about getting used to the new icons....
            Shapes are easy to get used to but with half the icons the same color/colour it's pretty easy to lose the one tree in the forest that you're looking for. I much prefered the old scheme where every toolbar was its own colour/color

          • NinjaBadger
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            I just have the toolbars in the same locations I always have (no quick measure for me!)

            My mouse moves to the right place on autopilot pretty much.

        • #7
          Originally posted by Schlag View Post
          2010 was the biggest piece of trash that was ever released on unfortunate programmers......All kinds of good additions in the last 10 years, go for it !
          3.6, the release TECH SUPPORT told people to uninstall, was the worst
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          Originally posted by AndersI
          I've got one from September 2006 (bug ticket) which has finally been fixed in 2013.

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          • NinjaBadger
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            Did 4.0 ever even make release?

            I remember testing it but I've a feeling that (in the UK at least) we deemed it unfit for purpose.

          • Matthew D. Hoedeman
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            4-heads suffered a lot.

          • Schlag
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            before my time on that 1 !

        • #8
          2017R1 SP3, the last update that still has the old icons.

          Oh yeah, and 2010 sucked. Go to at least 2012MR1.
          Last edited by VinniUSMC; 11-14-2019, 08:41 AM.
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          • #9
            2015.1 SP10 has been the most stable version for me. There are some tricks on the latter versions like paste with pattern in the reverse direction and others I can't think of right now. I run 2019 R2 offline just to play around with and to be honest... not good enough to leave 15.1 behind me just yet.

            If you can jump up a few versions at a time and stay on each version for minimum 3mo until you reach the latest and greatest. Then reflect back and pick your favorite one.
            PcDmis 2015.1 SP10 CAD++
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            • #10
              Time for this topic again.

              If it works, don't break it.

              On the other hand, if you aren't keeping some sort of treadmill pace, (sorta like a conveyor belt, but slow enough for takeoff), with advancing technology you are essentially an oversized lizard slowly sinking into the tarpits of time.

              As alluded to, there are new ASME GD&T standards just released or imminent and 2020+ versions of the demon will feature an all new GD&T dimensioning tool and AlGore-rthymic lieberry for compliance.

              All that said, you and your customers likely won't abandon the rock of ASME Y14.5-2009 for a few years yet.

              On another other hand more than about 5 years worth of jump, all those little changes can pile up into a shockingly brutal couple of weeks of flailing about in the deep end until one becomes acclimatized. So take some lumps now or keep stock piling for the inevitable avalanche.

              HTH & ymmv.

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