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  • How to Import program from different software

    Is there any way i can import/view a program made with diffrent software such as Calypso.
    Or a program made on PC-DMIS to be able to run on machine using different software?
    • I'm using PC-DMIS 2019 R1

  • #2
    Calypso code would need to be exported into DMIS code. Then import the DMIS code into PC-DMIS. Then you'll have to make tweaks to make sure it runs. Now the question is, does it work that way? I'm not sure.

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  • #3
    I know you can import PC DMIS into Zeis. Every time my colleague tried it, it was more trouble than it was worth & he just ended up re-writing the program.

    Short answer, yes. In reality, good luck my friend.
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    • #4
      http://info.originintl.com/products/cmm-translators

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      • #5
        What would be the gain of doing

        - buy extra software
        - PC-DMIS export .PRG as .BAS
        - convert .BAS to .DMI with extra software
        - use .DMI

        instead of

        - buy PC-DMIS option DMIS
        - PC-DMIS save as .DMI
        - use .DMI

        ?
        AndersI
        SW support - Hexagon Metrology Nordic AB

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        • vpt.se
          vpt.se commented
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          ...and no trial version to download either.

        • JacobCheverie
          JacobCheverie commented
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          AndersI Did you look carefully at what Origin offers? They have a one stop software package to go from Calypso -> PC-DMIS, PC-DMIS -> Calypso, and other language conversions.
          Alternatively, you can purchase PC-DMIS Import option for Calypso and you can purchase DMIS Export option for Calypso and you can purchase DMIS option for PC-DMIS, try to import on your own and make adjustments on your own, and still only be able to handle the two CMM software packages. A smaller (than Zeiss) organization with a platform that contains more than two "languages" was how I interpreted the desire of the OP.

          vpt.se I have worked a little with the company and they were more than happy to live demo it for me at no cost. I didn't end up pursuing it, but it looked fairly impressive.

          I think, at this stage, most programmers are better off rewriting the program in the alternative software. It's cheaper, probably faster, and will most likely avoid minor mistakes that may go undetected through software conversions.
          Last edited by JacobCheverie; 10-03-2019, 09:49 AM.

      • #6
        Originally posted by JacobCheverie
        Did you look carefully at what Origin offers?
        Not really, no. As I couldn't find a price tag in the first minute, I left :-)

        The main problem, as I see it, is that you sit with three possible error/misundersandment sources, and they might all be prone to blame the others. With my suggestion it is reduced to two (which is bad enough). I also have no idea how fast Origin will do updates when the other two are changed.

        Also, I have noted some cases where not even PC-DMIS can re-generate an identical .PRG from running the .BAS it just generated.

        Also, my own experience in creating software converters have left me with the belief that it is an impossible job…

        IMO, in the long run it is always better to re-create the program in the new software, in the way it should be created in that software. Both to understand what the program does, and make it possible to do changes later.
        Last edited by AndersI; 10-03-2019, 10:40 AM.
        AndersI
        SW support - Hexagon Metrology Nordic AB

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        • JacobCheverie
          JacobCheverie commented
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          I've even seen PC-DMIS unable to regenerate an identical program through it's own .DMI file

          I have worked on my own small scale Calypso -> PC-DMIS converter and had issues at one point or another. I don't think it is impossible, I just think with the amount of miscommunication between the "languages", there will always need to be user interference and there is a lot of room for error/mistranslations.

          Good point on the update frequency. OP asked for any way, that's the only converter I know. In my situation, it may have been more beneficial to use a smaller, lesser known converter than paying Zeiss $$$ to use their built in option Zeiss -> DMIS and having to import .DMI in PC-DMIS. They will all require additional work.

      • #7
        Originally posted by AndersI View Post

        IMO, in the long run it is always better to re-create the program in the new software, in the way it should be created in that software. Both to understand what the program does, and make it possible to do changes later.
        Problem is that if you want "identical' measurement routines, you need to be able to read the program code in the first software and be able to translate it into the second software. Some kind of translator is needed but any kind of translation is tricky. There are things that are one word in one language that may take a whole paragraph in another to fully translate. Swedish to English to Redneck ....

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        • #8
          Is there any CMM software that doesn't have their own fileformat, except for the ones using DMIS, that is?
          PC-DMIS CAD++ 2o19 R1 SP11

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          • AndersI
            AndersI commented
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            Those using DMIS often have embellished the standard DMIS with constructs of their own...

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