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    I've taken the PC-Dmis 201 and 202 class, and my boss is giving me a choice of GD&T for PC-Dmis 201 or PC-Dmis 301. Which is better?

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    That would depend upon your particular uses for Pc-Dmis. Unless you are struggling with GD&T in Xactmeasure, I would go for the 301 because the GD&T class does NOT teach GD&T, it teaches you how to use Xactmeasure correctly. And Xactmeasure will be going the way of Concentricity with v2020R1.

    Caveat: It has been many moons since I took the GD&T course so the curriculum has evolved. That said, while I haven't checked, I expect the above statement is still true.

    HTH



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    • VinniUSMC
      VinniUSMC commented
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      " And Xactmeasure will be going the way of Concentricity with v2020R1. "

      Say what now? Please elaborate.

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    Originally posted by VinniUSMC View Post
    " And Xactmeasure will be going the way of Concentricity with v2020R1. "

    Say what now? Please elaborate.
    Look for my summary of HxGN LIVE to be posted sometime between now and Moanday Mourning. The tldr preview is there will be a new GD&T dimensioning tool in Pc-Dmis to replace Xactmeasure in v2020R1.


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      Originally posted by Wes Cisco View Post

      Look for my summary of HxGN LIVE to be posted sometime between now and Moanday Mourning. The tldr preview is there will be a new GD&T dimensioning tool in Pc-Dmis to replace Xactmeasure in v2020R1.

      So, just when it is (mostly) fixed, they are going to dump it for something new and buggy..... SWEET!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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      Originally posted by AndersI
      I've got one from September 2006 (bug ticket) which has finally been fixed in 2013.

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      • anthony.alfaro
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        I believe the intention of the message was: They're doing away with concentricity.The calculation inside of PCD is identical to True Position. I heard rumors they were removing it from the standard which may be the driving force behind taking it out of PCD.

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      It's ok, we'll still have legacy mode.

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      • #6
        i agree with wes the gd&t course doesnt teach any gd&t take the 301
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        • RIDER
          RIDER commented
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          Dittos!!!!

      • #7
        301!? I'm still trying to talk them into sending me for the first course...

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        • A-machine-insp
          A-machine-insp commented
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          How long have you been working with DMIS? I was working with it for a year before I was send to school and, since I had a year of hands on time, I was able to go straight to the second course and skip the first.

        • Kp61dude!
          Kp61dude! commented
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          I was sent after almost 5yrs!! It was a waste of my time, learning wise, by then. But, it did open my eyes to: what I was doing was 'standard practice' and/or correct. In the end it was worth it plus getting out of the office is a nice treat...along with meeting other odd ball folks aka CMM people.

        • Quality ish
          Quality ish commented
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          I've been in Inspection with this company for 5.5 years, and have been working with PC-Dmis for about 2 and a half of those.

          HexMetU says I understand well enough to go straight to the second level. They've sent three people so far: The department head (who chose to send himself) another Inspector who was clue free (and is no longer with the compay), and a Programmer (who came away knowing less about the system than one of my set up guys that I've familiarized with the system). He's no longer here either.

          I've proven time and again that not only can I learn, but I can pass that knowledge on to others. Still nothing.

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        Originally posted by anthony.alfaro View Post
        I believe the intention of the message was: They're doing away with concentricity.The calculation inside of PCD is identical to True Position. I heard rumors they were removing it from the standard which may be the driving force behind taking it out of PCD.
        Howdy Anthony, I am pretty sure Matt is talking about how Xact was supposed to fix the flaws in legacy. The story is always the new one is finally right, until the next new on is ready, then and only then, is it acknowledged the current software is incorrect. That is the ungenerous take and understandable enough if one doesn't dig too deep. Xact had plenty of flaws but sometimes the only way to improve is to take yer best stab at it and learn as you go.

        ASME Y14.5-2018 is out. It was sanctioned by ANSI in November 2018, (hence the date), but not actually published until February of 2019. Concentricity is dead. [-]Long live Concentricity![/-] And Good Riddance!

        Wish I were just building tension intentionally, but sadly I have just had too many more important things to attend to. I want to do the presentations I intend to summarize justice and not just dash something off. I still hope to get them posted whilst it is still morning on the best coast.

        Sadly the goonmods not only removed my beloved Garramond font, but they also haven't bothered to institute a full function forum with the ability to process the lesser html tags. So you will just have imagine there is a line through "Long live Concentricity!".
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