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    Hello!
    Running PC-DMIS 2013 MR1 SP5 on an Optiv Performance z443
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    The short and sweet of it is: I want 64-bit Windows.

    The story is, I've got this Optiv. I'm pretty sure it's got a Matrox framegrabber, although I'm not entirely sure what that is. I would assume it's the card installed in the desktop that handles the camera.
    Well I've read it doesn't support 64-bit. So my dreams are shot...
    Or are they?

    Basically I hear about these Falcon cards, that do pretty much the same thing. And if that would work with 64-bit, that'd be really neat.
    Will it? If not, is there another card I can get that'll do what I'm looking for? (Handle the regular CMM vision activity probably)

    Another thing. What is the CMM-V probe? from http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GmKw5X-vNJY I can see it's a probe, but is this what's in an Optiv?
    From what I can tell it's got a built in camera and the probes go on a TP200 seperate from the camera, so I don't have it?

    I'd like to upgrade. If I need to talk to Hex I will, but I'm trying to beg my company for money so telling them it will cost a bundle to upgrade to x64 it might not sell the idea!
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    I performed an upgrade to 64-bit Windows on the online CMM, on a seperate hard drive. The normal drive is a RAID setup with 2 drives, this is a drive without RAID.
    I installed it correctly and everything, and I even installed PC-DMIS. We have the dongle so it was rather straightforward. But there were some hiccups, and I am under the impression it's the Matrox card.
    If I need to just update the drivers or something because that used to be a problem until Matrox got with the program... I wouldn't know what to do!

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    By the way I'm really getting used to these italics!

  • #2
    We upgraded ours from 32-bit to 64-bit. We had to get a whole new CPU and a Hex tech had to come in and do the installation. The Metronics card is the kicker since the one that is currently installed will not support 64-bit nor will Heidenhahn offer 64-bit support for that card (as so I hear). That is why the Falcon card is needed, as the replacement.

    Talk to your Hex rep to get rolling. If you want a price tag on that, PM me. It's not cheap...

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    • #3
      Originally posted by InspectorJester View Post
      Hello!
      Running PC-DMIS 2013 MR1 SP5 on an Optiv Performance z443
      ----------------------------------------------------------------------------------------
      The short and sweet of it is: I want 64-bit Windows.

      The story is, I've got this Optiv. I'm pretty sure it's got a Matrox framegrabber, although I'm not entirely sure what that is. I would assume it's the card installed in the desktop that handles the camera.
      Well I've read it doesn't support 64-bit. So my dreams are shot...

      Correct. It's the hardware that controls your camera. I cannot confirm if this card supports 64-bit or not. This would be something you would need to contact your local Hexagon Service team for.
      Or are they?

      Basically I hear about these Falcon cards, that do pretty much the same thing. And if that would work with 64-bit, that'd be really neat.
      Will it? If not, is there another card I can get that'll do what I'm looking for? (Handle the regular CMM vision activity probably)

      Falcon card is the same thing, just a newer version, i think. I'm not sure that it is a simple plug-and-play system. This would also be a question for your Service Team or local Sales rep.

      Another thing. What is the CMM-V probe? from http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GmKw5X-vNJY I can see it's a probe, but is this what's in an Optiv?
      From what I can tell it's got a built in camera and the probes go on a TP200 seperate from the camera, so I don't have it?

      basically, yes. it's just a camera with a top light and ring light. No backlight.

      I'd like to upgrade. If I need to talk to Hex I will, but I'm trying to beg my company for money so telling them it will cost a bundle to upgrade to x64 it might not sell the idea!
      --------------------------------
      I performed an upgrade to 64-bit Windows on the online CMM, on a seperate hard drive. The normal drive is a RAID setup with 2 drives, this is a drive without RAID.
      I installed it correctly and everything, and I even installed PC-DMIS. We have the dongle so it was rather straightforward. But there were some hiccups, and I am under the impression it's the Matrox card.
      If I need to just update the drivers or something because that used to be a problem until Matrox got with the program... I wouldn't know what to do!

      ---
      By the way I'm really getting used to these italics!
      See red notes above.
      Ex-Hex

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      • #4
        From the ftp :
        You just have to plug the right wire on the right port, finding the last update... maybe after had read the .pdf !
        "
        FALCON32_46000.exe What is it? PC-DMIS Framegrabber standard Device Driver Installation Utility for PC-DMIS 2011 and later. for IDS Falcon and Eagle. Install the software before installing the framegrabber board. NOTE: The IDS framegrabbers must not be used on a PC with a TV card driver (such as WinTV from Hauppauge) or other drivers for multimedia cards using a Bt848 or Bt878 chip. These drivers may overwrite the IDS EEPROM (error code 14) and make the board unusable. After running IDS_34`00.exe additional information can be found in Program Files\IDs\Falcon\Help\Falcon_Eagle_ENU.pdf. Support in PCDMIS requires a WAI_FrameGrabber_IDS dll (the initial version will be posted here on the FTP site) and that the HKEY_LOHKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\Software\WAI\PC-DMIS\MSI\FrameGrabber_Type registry value be set to 201 for Falcon and 202 for Eagle. Supports Windows 7. How to use? Standard Install. Run FALCON32_46000.exe Uploaded By? Bryan Seltzer For? General Use. WAI_FrameGrabber_IDS_4_60.zip What is it? PC-DMIS IDS framegrabber DLL. This file has not yet been added to the PCDMIS installer, so for initial IDS framegrabber usage, you will need to install the IDS drivers and files (ex: IDS_46000.exe) and copy and unzip the WAI_FrameGrabber_IDS_4_60.zip to the PCDMIS directory. How to use? Copy and unzip the WAI_FrameGrabber_IDS_4_60.zip to the PCDMIS directory. Uploaded By? Bryan Seltzer For? General Use."
        ftp://wilcoxassoc.com/Hardware/Visio...IDS/ReadMe.txt
        ftp://wilcoxassoc.com/Hardware/Vision/FrameGrabber/IDS/

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        • #5
          You guys are the best (collectively, "us") This is a lot of information I can use, and I certainly appreciate the feedback!I will see about these cards; if that's all I need (which I'm pretty sure is the case, considering everything else worked fine in 64-bit, but, Murphy's Law and all..) then I have a good case for upgrading to x64. Pray for me gents & germs!

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          Would I be able to Backup my settings in x86 and restore them in x64?
          Last edited by InspectorJester; 11-28-2017, 08:29 AM. Reason: Syntax

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