setting password

[Allen Long]

I have tried to set pc-dmis 3.7 and 4.1 so that when a operator runs the machine they are not capable of altering my programs or deleting files.
I am logged in as administator and have a separate logon for them.
I have tried to set up under properties and security but the left side stays grayed out . Any help would be welcomed

[Matthew D. Hoedeman]

All you can really do is make the programs READ-ONLY, but they will still be able to alter them WHILE they are open, it's just that the changes can not be saved. Currently, there is NO protection in Pcdmis to prevent alterations being made while a program is open.

[rangerboat72]

All you can really do is make the programs READ-ONLY, but they will still be able to alter them WHILE they are open, it's just that the changes can not be saved. Currently, there is NO protection in Pcdmis to prevent alterations being made while a program is open.

That's what we have done here. Just make certain that you back-up the original program on a CD or store it somewhere they can't get to it. I can't tell you how many times I get from some of our operators "Why is the program doing this?". I just tell them to close the program and re-open it. Everything magically works the way it is supposed to then????

[Don Meredith]

Even Read-only is no real protection. All the monkey has to do is un-check the box and he can save any changes. Operator Mode is probably the way to go for you, but when you exit pc-dmis you are logged off and all applications are closed. We should have the option choose not to be logged off.

[Matthew D. Hoedeman]

Yeah, but I think you can 'protect' the read-only by the permission setup, admin only can change that, others can not, but it would have to be set-up per user.

[cmmguy]

Does setting the read-only attribute have any negative effects? eg. Is there any aspect about the running program that needs write permisions such as count maintenance, incremental reporting features.

[Roberto]

I have tried to set pc-dmis 3.7 and 4.1 so that when a operator runs the machine they are not capable of altering my programs or deleting files.
I am logged in as administator and have a separate logon for them.
I have tried to set up under properties and security but the left side stays grayed out . Any help would be welcomed

Need to talk to CMM operators not to alter programs or give more training.

[Matthew D. Hoedeman]

Does setting the read-only attribute have any negative effects? eg. Is there any aspect about the running program that needs write permisions such as count maintenance, incremental reporting features.

Using READ-ONLY will make the program:

1) Give a no-problem error when closing since it can not save
2) THe stat count will ALWAYS start with the same number
3) The print-to-file report will TRY to start with the same number, but if it is NOT set to over-write or update, then it will either prompt or index by itself, not sure, I don't use it (my monkey be smart!).

There are 3 that I can think of off the top of my head.

[parrottk]

We have had that problem in the past.
we recently started using a software called Subversion wich stores all the programs on our server protected from access by the online seat (operators)
Every morning when they fire up the cmm computer a batch file runs in the background while the computer boots and over writes all there changes in the components folder on the C drive that they are not alowed to make any ways.
programs are back to the way they were written.
My offline seat can read/write to the server so changes have to come accross my desk for them to happen.