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  • Updating nominal value in a Dimension after changing a nominal on a feature

    When I add a point feature followed by a dimension, the nominal for the dimension is taken from the nominal of the point measured.

    The problem: if I change the nominal value on the point feature, my dimension nominal does NOT get updated.

    Is there anyway I can make this automatic?


    Thanks, Jan.


    Following is an example of the original point:

    PNT9PLANETOP =AUTO/VECTOR POINT,SHOWALLPARAMS = NO
    THEO/3,0,5.2493,0,0,1
    ACTL/2.99627,-0.00097,5.24925,0,0,1
    TARG/3,0,5.2493,0,0,1
    DIM LOC302= LOCATION OF POINT PNT9PLANETOP UNITS=IN ,$
    GRAPH=OFF TEXT=OFF MULT=10.00 OUTPUT=NONE
    AX NOMINAL +TOL -TOL MEAS DEV OUTTOL
    Z 5.24930 0.00100 0.00100 5.24925 -0.00005 0.00000 ----#----
    END OF DIMENSION LOC302

    Now if I change the nominal on the feature, the dim does not reflect that:

    PNT9PLANETOP =AUTO/VECTOR POINT,SHOWALLPARAMS = NO
    THEO/3,0,6,0,0,1
    ACTL/3,0,6,0,0,1
    TARG/3,0,6,0,0,1
    DIM LOC302= LOCATION OF POINT PNT9PLANETOP UNITS=IN ,$
    GRAPH=OFF TEXT=OFF MULT=10.00 OUTPUT=NONE
    AX NOMINAL +TOL -TOL MEAS DEV OUTTOL
    Z 5.24930 0.00100 0.00100 5.24925 -0.00005 0.00000 ----#----
    END OF DIMENSION LOC302

    Any way to link these changes????
    ***************************
    PC-DMIS/NC 2010MR3; 15 December 2010; running on 18 machine tools.
    Romer Infinite; PC-DMIS 2010 MR3; 15 December 2010.

  • #2
    what version are you using? A box should come up and ask you if you want to
    update nominals yes/no. It does in 3.7 anyway.

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    • #3
      What version?
      As of 3.7 there is a standard question asked of the programmer when changing the values of a feature..."Do you want to update related dimensions?". There may be a setting that has that turned off if you are using 3.7?
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      • #4
        Try ctrl E and let dcc take the hit That should change it.
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        • #5
          Using 4.0.

          No there is no box coming up.

          Jan.
          ***************************
          PC-DMIS/NC 2010MR3; 15 December 2010; running on 18 machine tools.
          Romer Infinite; PC-DMIS 2010 MR3; 15 December 2010.

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          • #6
            can you dimension it
            then change the nominals in the dimension
            it should ask you to update nominals

            im only using 3.5
            DR Watson shut me down again !!!! :mad: Smoke break:eek:

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            • #7
              Originally posted by Jeffrey Lovely
              can you dimension it
              then change the nominals in the dimension
              it should ask you to update nominals

              im only using 3.5
              As Carolyn stated, 3.7 mr3, will ask to update nominals in the feature when you change them in the dimension

              TK
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              • #8
                Jan,

                I just created a point in 4.1 and I got the message about updating theo's and target values, and the next question posed is do I want to send this to related dimensions.

                MOVE/CLEARPLANE
                TEST =AUTO/VECTOR POINT,SHOWALLPARAMS = NO
                THEO/31.418,0.5,47.461,0,-1,0
                ACTL/31.418,0.5,47.461,0,-1,0
                TARG/31.418,0.5,47.461,0,-1,0
                DIM ITEM1= LOCATION OF POINT TEST UNITS=MM ,$
                GRAPH=OFF TEXT=OFF MULT=10.00 OUTPUT=BOTH
                AX MEAS NOMINAL +TOL -TOL DEV OUTTOL
                Y 0.500 0.500 0.010 0.010 0.000 0.000 ----#----
                END OF DIMENSION ITEM1

                Red stuff was 0.0

                I found a setting in the settings editor...but it didn't affect anything when I changed the value from 1 to 0. That settings editor command line was..warnokupdatenoms = 1. I changed it to 0 and started up PC-DMIS 4.1 but the same warning came up when I mimiced the same actions mentioned above.
                Sorry I couldn't be of more assistance but how about Tech support? Sometimes they do a pretty good job of getting to the bottom of stuff.
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                • #9
                  Originally posted by tking
                  As Carolyn stated, 3.7 mr3, will ask to update nominals in the feature when you change them in the dimension

                  TK
                  half stated
                  just trying to help
                  I think hes looking for a permanent fix
                  DR Watson shut me down again !!!! :mad: Smoke break:eek:

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                  • #10
                    Try going to the setup options and see if the proper warning is turned on.
                    Also your actuals will not update until you re-measure.
                    Time for the Trolls to leave.

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                    • #11
                      There are limited warnings in 4.0. The list is only generated based upon answers by the programmer when windows are opened, such as when clicking ok for make ID name default, there is a check box for "don't ask again". If chosen, the warning will be added to the list and it can be edited later on. This was done to limit the amount of warnings listed to onle the ones pertinent to the spcific programmers choices.

                      As far as a solution is concerned, the best advice I can give to you is to go to 4.1. There are enough fixes to warrant it as exampled with this particular case.
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                      James Mannes

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                      • #12
                        Originally posted by Jeffrey Lovely
                        half stated
                        just trying to help
                        I think hes looking for a permanent fix
                        Yup, just saying that's how it works in 3.7 mr3. I agree about the permanent fix being what he wants. I stepped into the demons' lair with no training and it was a bit confusing coming from MM4. My natural inclination would be to change the point nominal information at the feature not in the reporting. As long as you know the "correct" way the demon will cooperate
                        sigpicHave a homebrew

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                        • #13
                          Thanks for your help.

                          I will probably upgrade to 4.1 soon.


                          Jan.
                          ***************************
                          PC-DMIS/NC 2010MR3; 15 December 2010; running on 18 machine tools.
                          Romer Infinite; PC-DMIS 2010 MR3; 15 December 2010.

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