Updating nominal value in a Dimension after changing a nominal on a feature

[Jan d.]

When I add a point feature followed by a dimension, the nominal for the dimension is taken from the nominal of the point measured.

The problem: if I change the nominal value on the point feature, my dimension nominal does NOT get updated.

Is there anyway I can make this automatic?


Thanks, Jan.


Following is an example of the original point:

PNT9PLANETOP =AUTO/VECTOR POINT,SHOWALLPARAMS = NO
THEO/3,0,5.2493,0,0,1
ACTL/2.99627,-0.00097,5.24925,0,0,1
TARG/3,0,5.2493,0,0,1
DIM LOC302= LOCATION OF POINT PNT9PLANETOP UNITS=IN ,$
GRAPH=OFF TEXT=OFF MULT=10.00 OUTPUT=NONE
AX NOMINAL +TOL -TOL MEAS DEV OUTTOL
Z 5.24930 0.00100 0.00100 5.24925 -0.00005 0.00000 ----#----
END OF DIMENSION LOC302

Now if I change the nominal on the feature, the dim does not reflect that:

PNT9PLANETOP =AUTO/VECTOR POINT,SHOWALLPARAMS = NO
THEO/3,0,6,0,0,1
ACTL/3,0,6,0,0,1
TARG/3,0,6,0,0,1
DIM LOC302= LOCATION OF POINT PNT9PLANETOP UNITS=IN ,$
GRAPH=OFF TEXT=OFF MULT=10.00 OUTPUT=NONE
AX NOMINAL +TOL -TOL MEAS DEV OUTTOL
Z 5.24930 0.00100 0.00100 5.24925 -0.00005 0.00000 ----#----
END OF DIMENSION LOC302

Any way to link these changes????

[Carolyn McKean]

what version are you using? A box should come up and ask you if you want to
update nominals yes/no. It does in 3.7 anyway.

[JamesMannes]

What version?
As of 3.7 there is a standard question asked of the programmer when changing the values of a feature..."Do you want to update related dimensions?". There may be a setting that has that turned off if you are using 3.7?

[T Miller]

Try ctrl E and let dcc take the hit That should change it.

[Jan d.]

Using 4.0.

No there is no box coming up.

Jan.

[Jeffrey Lovely]

can you dimension it
then change the nominals in the dimension
it should ask you to update nominals

im only using 3.5

[tking]

can you dimension it
then change the nominals in the dimension
it should ask you to update nominals

im only using 3.5

As Carolyn stated, 3.7 mr3, will ask to update nominals in the feature when you change them in the dimension

TK

[JamesMannes]

Jan,

I just created a point in 4.1 and I got the message about updating theo's and target values, and the next question posed is do I want to send this to related dimensions.

MOVE/CLEARPLANE
TEST =AUTO/VECTOR POINT,SHOWALLPARAMS = NO
THEO/31.418,0.5,47.461,0,-1,0
ACTL/31.418,0.5,47.461,0,-1,0
TARG/31.418,0.5,47.461,0,-1,0
DIM ITEM1= LOCATION OF POINT TEST UNITS=MM ,$
GRAPH=OFF TEXT=OFF MULT=10.00 OUTPUT=BOTH
AX MEAS NOMINAL +TOL -TOL DEV OUTTOL
Y 0.500 0.500 0.010 0.010 0.000 0.000 ----#----
END OF DIMENSION ITEM1

Red stuff was 0.0

I found a setting in the settings editor...but it didn't affect anything when I changed the value from 1 to 0. That settings editor command line was..warnokupdatenoms = 1. I changed it to 0 and started up PC-DMIS 4.1 but the same warning came up when I mimiced the same actions mentioned above.
Sorry I couldn't be of more assistance but how about Tech support? Sometimes they do a pretty good job of getting to the bottom of stuff.

[Jeffrey Lovely]

As Carolyn stated, 3.7 mr3, will ask to update nominals in the feature when you change them in the dimension

TK

half stated
just trying to help
I think hes looking for a permanent fix

[William Johnson]

Try going to the setup options and see if the proper warning is turned on.
Also your actuals will not update until you re-measure.

[JamesMannes]

There are limited warnings in 4.0. The list is only generated based upon answers by the programmer when windows are opened, such as when clicking ok for make ID name default, there is a check box for "don't ask again". If chosen, the warning will be added to the list and it can be edited later on. This was done to limit the amount of warnings listed to onle the ones pertinent to the spcific programmers choices.

As far as a solution is concerned, the best advice I can give to you is to go to 4.1. There are enough fixes to warrant it as exampled with this particular case.

[tking]

half stated
just trying to help
I think hes looking for a permanent fix

Yup, just saying that's how it works in 3.7 mr3. I agree about the permanent fix being what he wants. I stepped into the demons' lair with no training and it was a bit confusing coming from MM4. My natural inclination would be to change the point nominal information at the feature not in the reporting. As long as you know the "correct" way the demon will cooperate

[Jan d.]

Thanks for your help.

I will probably upgrade to 4.1 soon.


Jan.