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    First time posting in the Datasuite section of the forum...

    So we used to have Datapage/RT and now have Datapage + 2011MR1.

    All our programs used to have tracefields set up in them and now we still have the tracefields, but we've also been doing inputs (where the input is reported on the .pdf report) and in the tracefield using the c1.input, c2.input, etc. in the tracefield itself.

    So when I'm looking in Datapage this results in having the same information of the input and the tracefield (machine # twice, cmm operator # twice, shift twice etc.)

    So going forward do we still need the tracefield anymore (utilizing just the input commands)?? What really is the difference between them now??

    TIA,

    4/1/96

  • #2
    Originally posted by April11996 View Post
    First time posting in the Datasuite section of the forum...

    So we used to have Datapage/RT and now have Datapage + 2011MR1.

    All our programs used to have tracefields set up in them and now we still have the tracefields, but we've also been doing inputs (where the input is reported on the .pdf report) and in the tracefield using the c1.input, c2.input, etc. in the tracefield itself.

    So when I'm looking in Datapage this results in having the same information of the input and the tracefield (machine # twice, cmm operator # twice, shift twice etc.)

    So going forward do we still need the tracefield anymore (utilizing just the input commands)?? What really is the difference between them now??

    TIA,

    4/1/96
    April, I've only done a little bit of testing, but from what I can tell, the tracefield imported into DataPage is directly from the comment input, rather than having to use a variable.

    Code:
    C1         =COMMENT/INPUT,NO,FULL SCREEN=NO,
                Input Part Number:
    C2         =COMMENT/INPUT,NO,FULL SCREEN=NO,
                Input Part Name:
    C3         =COMMENT/INPUT,NO,FULL SCREEN=NO,
                Input Part Revision:
    C4         =COMMENT/INPUT,NO,FULL SCREEN=NO,
                Input Customer Name:
    C5         =COMMENT/INPUT,NO,FULL SCREEN=NO,
                Input Operator Name and Title:
                ASSIGN/V1=C1.INPUT
                ASSIGN/V2=C2.INPUT
                ASSIGN/V3=C3.INPUT
                ASSIGN/V4=C4.INPUT
                ASSIGN/V5=C5.INPUT
    This is in all of my programs. From my limited testing, you can remove all of the assignments, and the tracefields import normally into DataPage. I haven't gotten around to double and triple checking that this is the case though, so all of my programs still have the comments and variables. Those 5 extra lines aren't hurting anything, so I'm not really in any hurry to do so.
    "This is my word... and as such is beyond contestation."

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    • #3
      Depends on how you use DataPage. I made a template for cad reports that draws information from 3 tracefields. That's how I made it so I need them. If not using cad report I don't use them because the input comment is there.

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      • #4
        Can non measured data be automatically entered in a part program without operator input? Ex. I have 2 cells that share 1 schedule and run only 1 part, they split the load. Can the report say which parts were inspected in cell one and which were inspected in cell 2?

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        • #5
          Originally posted by VinniUSMC View Post
          April, I've only done a little bit of testing, but from what I can tell, the tracefield imported into DataPage is directly from the comment input, rather than having to use a variable.

          Code:
          C1         =COMMENT/INPUT,NO,FULL SCREEN=NO,
                      Input Part Number:
          C2         =COMMENT/INPUT,NO,FULL SCREEN=NO,
                      Input Part Name:
          C3         =COMMENT/INPUT,NO,FULL SCREEN=NO,
                      Input Part Revision:
          C4         =COMMENT/INPUT,NO,FULL SCREEN=NO,
                      Input Customer Name:
          C5         =COMMENT/INPUT,NO,FULL SCREEN=NO,
                      Input Operator Name and Title:
                      ASSIGN/V1=C1.INPUT
                      ASSIGN/V2=C2.INPUT
                      ASSIGN/V3=C3.INPUT
                      ASSIGN/V4=C4.INPUT
                      ASSIGN/V5=C5.INPUT
          This is in all of my programs. From my limited testing, you can remove all of the assignments, and the tracefields import normally into DataPage. I haven't gotten around to double and triple checking that this is the case though, so all of my programs still have the comments and variables. Those 5 extra lines aren't hurting anything, so I'm not really in any hurry to do so.

          VinniUSMC,

          This is what we've been using in our programs. I guess if the input/comment is going into datapage (and on the .pdf) I'm not seeing the need for the 3 tracefield lines afterwards. It just seems like they are a continuation from when we used to used datapage/RT and are no longer needed. I plan on doing more testing with this but based on your message, and what I'm seeing Datapage, it looks like this is the case. Can anyone else comment on this??

          EXTERNALCOMMAND/NO_DISPLAY, NO_WAIT ; C:\PROGRAM FILES (X86)\WAI\DATAPAGE+ 2011 MR1\DATAPAGESTATS.EXE
          C1 =COMMENT/INPUT,YES,FULL SCREEN=NO,
          MACHINE
          C2 =COMMENT/INPUT,YES,FULL SCREEN=NO,
          STATION
          C4 =COMMENT/INPUT,YES,FULL SCREEN=NO,
          CMM OPERATOR CLOCK NUMBER :
          TRACEFIELD/DISPLAY,LIMIT=15 ; MACHINE : C1.INPUT
          TRACEFIELD/DISPLAY,LIMIT=15 ; STATION : C2.INPUT
          TRACEFIELD/DISPLAY,LIMIT=15 ; CMM OPERATOR : C4.INPUT

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          • #6
            Originally posted by April11996 View Post
            VinniUSMC,

            This is what we've been using in our programs. I guess if the input/comment is going into datapage (and on the .pdf) I'm not seeing the need for the 3 tracefield lines afterwards. It just seems like they are a continuation from when we used to used datapage/RT and are no longer needed. I plan on doing more testing with this but based on your message, and what I'm seeing Datapage, it looks like this is the case. Can anyone else comment on this??

            EXTERNALCOMMAND/NO_DISPLAY, NO_WAIT ; C:\PROGRAM FILES (X86)\WAI\DATAPAGE+ 2011 MR1\DATAPAGESTATS.EXE
            C1 =COMMENT/INPUT,YES,FULL SCREEN=NO,
            MACHINE
            C2 =COMMENT/INPUT,YES,FULL SCREEN=NO,
            STATION
            C4 =COMMENT/INPUT,YES,FULL SCREEN=NO,
            CMM OPERATOR CLOCK NUMBER :
            TRACEFIELD/DISPLAY,LIMIT=15 ; MACHINE : C1.INPUT
            TRACEFIELD/DISPLAY,LIMIT=15 ; STATION : C2.INPUT
            TRACEFIELD/DISPLAY,LIMIT=15 ; CMM OPERATOR : C4.INPUT


            UPDATE:

            After further testing of removing the tracefields the duplicate information is gone. The data entered by operators in the input field records in Datapage and works (disclaimer: for what we're doing now.)

            4/1/96

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            • #7
              Originally posted by April11996 View Post
              UPDATE:

              After further testing of removing the tracefields the duplicate information is gone. The data entered by operators in the input field records in Datapage and works (disclaimer: for what we're doing now.)

              4/1/96
              Awesome. Thanks for the update.
              "This is my word... and as such is beyond contestation."

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              • #8
                acgarcia,

                The code below reads a text file and uses the text as a tracefield. We run the same program on all machines and this gives us a way to track that in the stats if we need, might work for your application

                Code:
                CMMID      =FILE/OPEN,C:\PCDMISW\CMM.TXT,READ
                V1         =FILE/READLINE,CMMID,*****}
                            STATS/ON,DATAPAGE,$            DIRECTORY=P:\DATAPAGE\customer\part,$
                            DIRECTORY=,$
                            READ=60,WRITE=120,MEMPAGES=256,DIMENSION NAME,CONTROLCALC ON,$
                            STATS/END
                            TRACEFIELD/NO_DISPLAY,LIMIT=15 ; cmm : CMM
                "CMMID,{ c m m }" (no spaces) changes to CMMID,*****} when I paste it here!
                TK
                Last edited by tking; 11-19-2015, 10:09 AM.
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