PC-DMIS User Forum http://www.pcdmisforum.com/ Discussion forum for PC-DMIS Measurement Software, Developed by Wilcox Associates, a Hexagon Metrology Company en Fri, 18 May 2012 19:28:35 GMT vBulletin 60 http://www.pcdmisforum.com/images/misc/rss.png PC-DMIS User Forum http://www.pcdmisforum.com/ Anyone familiar with 3.0 http://www.pcdmisforum.com/showthread.php?22229-Anyone-familiar-with-3.0&goto=newpost Fri, 18 May 2012 18:35:33 GMT Im trying to get my report to automatically go to a RTF file folder at the end of my program. This is how I do it on 3.7.... Im trying to get my report to automatically go to a RTF file folder at the end of my program. This is how I do it on 3.7.
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UPDATE =LABEL/
STATS/UPDATE
MODE/MANUAL
ASSIGN/PREFX = STR("CTT4043232VG-")
ASSIGN/SUFFX = STR("_")
ASSIGN/REPTNAME = SERNO
ASSIGN/OPTNAME = OPTION
ASSIGN/PATH = STR("C:/Documents and Settings/CMM/My Documents/CMM_REPORTS/CTT_REPORTS/VG_REPORTS/CTT_4043232VG_RTF/")
ASSIGN/EXT = STR(".RTF")
ASSIGN/FILENAME = PATH+PREFX+REPTNAME+SUFFX+OPTION+EXT
PRINT/REPORT,EXEC MODE=END,$
TO_FILE=ON,OVERWRITE=FILENAME,$
TO_PRINTER=OFF,DRAFTMODE=OFF,$
TO_DMIS_REPORT=OFF,FILE_OPTION=INDEX,FILENAME=FILE NAME,$
REPORT_THEORETICALS=NONE,REPORT_FEATURE_WITH_DIMEN SIONS=NO,$
PREVIOUS_RUNS=DELETE_INSTANCES
GOTO/MENU1
EXIT =LABLE
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I get as far as ASSIGN/FILENAME. I cant figure out how to get the PRINT/REPORT part. ]]> PC-DMIS for CMMs jaymunday http://www.pcdmisforum.com/showthread.php?22229-Anyone-familiar-with-3.0 Measuring plane http://www.pcdmisforum.com/showthread.php?22228-Measuring-plane&goto=newpost Fri, 18 May 2012 17:05:39 GMT Hi Guru, How can I measure a plane in -Z axis with different tip angles?(Like say, I need measure 9 points to construct a plane, I need use... Hi Guru,

How can I measure a plane in -Z axis with different tip angles?(Like say, I need measure 9 points to construct a plane, I need use TA90B90,TA90B180,TA90B-90 and TA90B-180 4 different angles to measure these point, how can it come true?)Any idea is appreciated,thank you, ]]> PC-DMIS for CMMs homer.tan http://www.pcdmisforum.com/showthread.php?22228-Measuring-plane Pc dmis to quindos http://www.pcdmisforum.com/showthread.php?22227-Pc-dmis-to-quindos&goto=newpost Fri, 18 May 2012 15:01:26 GMT We have a Global that we run Quindos and PC DMIS on. The problem is we can't get Quindos up and running after we have ran a DMIS program. We always get a calibration error and we have tried shutting the machine all the way down and rebooting to no avial. There must be some way to go back and forth cleanly I just havn't figured it out yet.

Has anyone else had this problem? ]]> Quindos SSmith http://www.pcdmisforum.com/showthread.php?22227-Pc-dmis-to-quindos True Position of a set of features http://www.pcdmisforum.com/showthread.php?22224-True-Position-of-a-set-of-features&goto=newpost Fri, 18 May 2012 14:05:33 GMT Hello all, I have a part with 8 similar features and a callout for true position of the surface of these features. I have not used Xact measure... Hello all,

I have a part with 8 similar features and a callout for true position of the surface of these features. I have not used Xact measure much and was trying to use it for this but I am not sure if the datums are set up correctly. I attached the portion of the drawing for this callout, if anyone has a suggestion on how to report this dimension I would appreciate it.Attachment 7278Thanks
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]]> PC-DMIS for CMMs Ian Harris http://www.pcdmisforum.com/showthread.php?22224-True-Position-of-a-set-of-features Concentricity between 2 inner diameters or 2 outer diameters http://www.pcdmisforum.com/showthread.php?22220-Concentricity-between-2-inner-diameters-or-2-outer-diameters&goto=newpost Thu, 17 May 2012 20:18:19 GMT I have read on past threads that concentricity on PC-DMIS is either undoable or relatively hard to accomplish, however, I am not sure I am... I have read on past threads that concentricity on PC-DMIS is either undoable or relatively hard to accomplish, however, I am not sure I am understanding the associated questions and responses. In a nutshell, if Concentricity can be accomplished between 2 ID's or OD's, can anyone tell me in detail/simple terms how this can be done.

Thanks
Gamille ]]> PC-DMIS for CMMs gamille http://www.pcdmisforum.com/showthread.php?22220-Concentricity-between-2-inner-diameters-or-2-outer-diameters Datapage 2011 File Dump http://www.pcdmisforum.com/showthread.php?22219-Datapage-2011-File-Dump&goto=newpost Thu, 17 May 2012 19:28:24 GMT Hi All,

Like many others, still learning the in's and out's of Datapage 2011. In the R/T version, you could perform an ascii dump, edit what ever needed editing and reload. With 2011, I cannot find this anywhere and the help file doesn't offer much. There are area's where you can dump reports and data into Excel, but not any ascii files. Anyone have any idea's? TIA ]]> PC-DMIS for CMMs firehaus http://www.pcdmisforum.com/showthread.php?22219-Datapage-2011-File-Dump Mysterious probe angles http://www.pcdmisforum.com/showthread.php?22218-Mysterious-probe-angles&goto=newpost Thu, 17 May 2012 19:18:48 GMT Hi all, Running 2011 Mr1 with Bladerunner/Blade. For some reason probe angles are getting added to my probe file but not from me. Has anyone seen... Hi all, Running 2011 Mr1 with Bladerunner/Blade. For some reason probe angles are getting added to my probe file but not from me. Has anyone seen PC-DMIS add the angles on its own? We use an SP600 star that we never index the A but only the B. I know the angles are not in the program (I only have three in there to bigin with) so I am not sure what is going on. ]]> PC-DMIS for CMMs SSmith http://www.pcdmisforum.com/showthread.php?22218-Mysterious-probe-angles CAD vs. Part http://www.pcdmisforum.com/showthread.php?22217-CAD-vs.-Part&goto=newpost Thu, 17 May 2012 19:14:37 GMT I have completely lost my way on how to do this. I have a CAD file on the screen, and a part on the CMM both with matching alignments. Can anyone... I have completely lost my way on how to do this.
I have a CAD file on the screen, and a part on the CMM both with matching alignments. Can anyone help me remember how to align them together so I can get the program started from the CAD model? I guess that I am asking how to do the manual alignment through the DCC alignment and have them match up.
Thanks for the help. ]]> PC-DMIS for CMMs ctgoens http://www.pcdmisforum.com/showthread.php?22217-CAD-vs.-Part If/then statements http://www.pcdmisforum.com/showthread.php?22216-If-then-statements&goto=newpost Thu, 17 May 2012 15:29:31 GMT Help,,,,,,,,,,, Trying to place code into program to excecute / or not 12 points that we check on a raw assembly, but then we get Foam added... Help,,,,,,,,,,,
Trying to place code into program to excecute / or not 12 points that we check on a raw assembly, but then we get Foam added in that area and cannot measure the same points. I would like to skip these points if foam is added and measure them if the foam isn't there. How do I do this?? ]]> PC-DMIS for CMMs D HARTNESS http://www.pcdmisforum.com/showthread.php?22216-If-then-statements qual. tool locations not updating http://www.pcdmisforum.com/showthread.php?22215-qual.-tool-locations-not-updating&goto=newpost Thu, 17 May 2012 12:46:30 GMT I'm using v3.7 mr3. I qualify on a 1" sphere, "yes" to has it moved. This updates that spheres XYZ definition.
I switch probe configurations, select the same sphere, "no" it hasn't moved. The spheres' definition is not the same as after the first qualify, so the probe heads for an old location. This is a new trick, hasn't given me any trouble before. I tried adding a new "tool". This fixes the problem, but only once. For now,
I have to add a new tool (deleting some old ones) each time I start. What up? ]]> PC-DMIS for CMMs probetip http://www.pcdmisforum.com/showthread.php?22215-qual.-tool-locations-not-updating 10X10mm Disk Styli Probe File PCDMIS 3.7 Not Found http://www.pcdmisforum.com/showthread.php?22214-10X10mm-Disk-Styli-Probe-File-PCDMIS-3.7-Not-Found&goto=newpost Thu, 17 May 2012 11:56:38 GMT I have a 10mmX10mm Disk Probe in my arsenal that I would like to use in one of my programs but I cannot find it in the probe list when constructing a... I have a 10mmX10mm Disk Probe in my arsenal that I would like to use in one of my programs but I cannot find it in the probe list when constructing a probe.

I am running PC DMIS 3.7

Is this styli not included in the list because of the version of the program or is there some where that I download the file or add it to the list?

The Renishaw Part No. is A-5004-1387.

Thanks ]]> PC-DMIS for CMMs charlesforth http://www.pcdmisforum.com/showthread.php?22214-10X10mm-Disk-Styli-Probe-File-PCDMIS-3.7-Not-Found Composite FCF Pattern TP http://www.pcdmisforum.com/showthread.php?22212-Composite-FCF-Pattern-TP&goto=newpost Thu, 17 May 2012 01:47:38 GMT Is there somewhere you guys can recommend me to go to get some clairification on composite and pattern TP? I am having a really hard time with... Is there somewhere you guys can recommend me to go to get some clairification on composite and pattern TP? I am having a really hard time with everyones explantion of this, because i really feel what people are looking at as a pattern TP really isnt intended as such. It seems like anytime people see a TP that says 4x it is automatically a pattern TP if it says |TP|A| or |TP|A|B|. Any help is appreciated. ]]> PC-DMIS for CMMs oriental_sun http://www.pcdmisforum.com/showthread.php?22212-Composite-FCF-Pattern-TP Scanning a cone for a Surfuce Profile callout. http://www.pcdmisforum.com/showthread.php?22211-Scanning-a-cone-for-a-Surfuce-Profile-callout.&goto=newpost Wed, 16 May 2012 22:17:36 GMT Hello, Crazy Man here again.

I have a part that has multiple cones and I need to scan it utilizing a model, a SP600M Head & PC-DMIS 3.7.

The print calls out a Surface Profile of .005 to Datums A & B.

Here's how I have the program started:

Code:
STARTUP    =ALIGNMENT/START,RECALL:, LIST= YES
            ALIGNMENT/END
            MODE/MANUAL
            MANRETRACT/2.54
            LOADPROBE/MSI SCAN PROBE #2
            TIP/T1A0B0, SHANKIJK=0.0005, 0.0003, 1, ANGLE=-0.8493
            FORMAT/TEXT,OPTIONS, ,HEADINGS,SYMBOLS, ;NOM,TOL,MEAS,DEV,OUTTOL, ,
            FLY/ON,0.1181
            COMMENT/OPER,NO,***Scan Head Required!!!***
            COMMENT/OPER,NO,***Place part on CMM per print.***
                          ,1) Take three points on the .400 plane.
                          ,2) Take three points on the inside of Ø.1245 #1.
                          ,3) Then take three points on the inside of Ø.1245 #3.
PLANE1    =FEAT/PLANE,RECT,TRIANGLE
            THEO/-0.1235,0.0127,0.4,0,0,1
            ACTL/7.568,11.4346,-19.7647,-0.0002136,-0.0001439,1
            MEAS/PLANE,3
            HIT/BASIC,NORMAL,0.0067,0.5306,0.4,0,0,1,7.6948,11.9535,-19.7646,USE THEO = YES
            HIT/BASIC,NORMAL,0.1214,-0.491,0.4,0,0,1,7.8165,10.9325,-19.7648,USE THEO = YES
            HIT/BASIC,NORMAL,-0.4987,-0.0016,0.4,0,0,1,7.1928,11.4179,-19.7648,USE THEO = YES
            ENDMEAS/
CIRCLE1    =FEAT/CIRCLE,RECT,OUT,LEAST_SQR
            THEO/0,0,0.3036,0.0002753,0.0001188,1,1.1742
            ACTL/7.6914,11.4229,-19.8611,0,0,1,1.1745
            MEAS/CIRCLE,3,WORKPLANE
            HIT/BASIC,NORMAL,-0.0883,0.5804,0.3036,-0.1503727,0.9886294,-0.000076,7.5992,12.0029,-19.861,USE THEO = YES
            MOVE/CIRCULAR
            HIT/BASIC,NORMAL,0.4448,-0.3832,0.3035,0.7576792,-0.6526272,-0.0001311,8.1389,11.0426,-19.861,USE THEO = YES
            MOVE/CIRCULAR
            HIT/BASIC,NORMAL,-0.42,-0.4102,0.3036,-0.7153354,-0.6987812,0.0002799,7.2743,11.0095,-19.8613,USE THEO = YES
            ENDMEAS/
CIRCLE2    =FEAT/CIRCLE,RECT,IN,LEAST_SQR
            THEO/-0.4147,0.4159,0.3038,0.0002753,0.0001188,1,0.1247
            ACTL/7.2737,11.8362,-19.861,0,0,1,0.1254
            MEAS/CIRCLE,3,WORKPLANE
            HIT/BASIC,NORMAL,-0.4245,0.3543,0.3039,0.1563942,0.9876947,-0.0001604,7.2646,11.7742,-19.8611,USE THEO = YES
            HIT/BASIC,NORMAL,-0.3772,0.3661,0.3037,-0.6017096,0.7987149,0.0000708,7.312,11.7865,-19.861,USE THEO = YES
            HIT/BASIC,NORMAL,-0.3523,0.4164,0.3038,-0.9999681,-0.0079887,0.0002763,7.3365,11.8365,-19.861,USE THEO = YES
            ENDMEAS/
CIRCLE3    =FEAT/CIRCLE,RECT,IN,LEAST_SQR
            THEO/0.4149,0.4159,0.3039,0.0002753,0.0001188,1,0.126
            ACTL/8.1034,11.8416,-19.8606,0,0,1,0.1258
            MEAS/CIRCLE,3,WORKPLANE
            HIT/BASIC,NORMAL,0.4112,0.3531,0.3039,0.0588764,0.9982653,-0.0001348,8.1002,11.7788,-19.8608,USE THEO = YES
            HIT/BASIC,NORMAL,0.3777,0.3651,0.304,0.5911954,0.8065283,-0.0002586,8.0663,11.7908,-19.8606,USE THEO = YES
            HIT/BASIC,NORMAL,0.3525,0.4073,0.3039,0.9904934,0.1375601,-0.000289,8.0412,11.8324,-19.8605,USE THEO = YES
            ENDMEAS/
ALIGN0    =ALIGNMENT/START,RECALL:STARTUP, LIST= YES
            ALIGNMENT/LEVEL,ZPLUS,PLANE1
            ALIGNMENT/TRANS,ZAXIS,PLANE1
            ALIGNMENT/TRANS_OFFSET,ZAXIS,-0.4
            ALIGNMENT/TRANS,XAXIS,CIRCLE1
            ALIGNMENT/TRANS,YAXIS,CIRCLE1
            ALIGNMENT/ROTATE_CIRCLE,XPLUS,TO,CIRCLE2,AND,CIRCLE3,ABOUT,ZPLUS
            ALIGNMENT/END
            MODE/DCC
.1245-3  =FEAT/CIRCLE,RECT,IN,LEAST_SQR
            THEO/0.4146,0.4156,0.3,0,0,1,0.1253
            ACTL/0.4147,0.4161,0.3003,0,0,1,0.126
            MEAS/CIRCLE,5,WORKPLANE
            HIT/BASIC,NORMAL,0.4162,0.353,0.3,-0.025301,0.9996799,0,0.416,0.3531,0.3001,USE THEO = YES
            HIT/BASIC,NORMAL,0.3966,0.3556,0.3001,0.2863846,0.9581147,0,0.3964,0.3558,0.3002,USE THEO = YES
            HIT/BASIC,NORMAL,0.3849,0.3605,0.3001,0.4741302,0.8804548,0,0.3848,0.3607,0.3005,USE THEO = YES
            HIT/BASIC,NORMAL,0.3572,0.3904,0.2999,0.9156639,0.4019448,0,0.3573,0.3903,0.3004,USE THEO = YES
            HIT/BASIC,NORMAL,0.3522,0.4092,0.2999,0.9947751,0.1020907,0,0.3521,0.4093,0.3002,USE THEO = YES
            ENDMEAS/
            MOVE/POINT,NORMAL,0.415,0.415,0.75
            MOVE/POINT,NORMAL,-0.415,0.415,0.7503
.1245-1  =FEAT/CIRCLE,RECT,IN,LEAST_SQR
            THEO/-0.4143,0.4151,0.3,0,0,1,0.1236
            ACTL/-0.4143,0.4154,0.3002,0,0,1,0.1238
            MEAS/CIRCLE,5,WORKPLANE
            HIT/BASIC,NORMAL,-0.3538,0.4276,0.2999,-0.9792712,-0.2025534,0,-0.3536,0.4276,0.2999,USE THEO = YES
            HIT/BASIC,NORMAL,-0.3555,0.3964,0.3,-0.9530426,0.3028364,0,-0.3553,0.3963,0.3001,USE THEO = YES
            HIT/BASIC,NORMAL,-0.3646,0.3782,0.3,-0.8036362,0.5951209,0,-0.3648,0.3783,0.3003,USE THEO = YES
            HIT/BASIC,NORMAL,-0.3947,0.3565,0.3001,-0.3180787,0.9480643,0,-0.3948,0.3567,0.3004,USE THEO = YES
            HIT/BASIC,NORMAL,-0.4096,0.3535,0.3001,-0.0761075,0.9970996,0,-0.4094,0.3536,0.3003,USE THEO = YES
            ENDMEAS/
            MOVE/POINT,NORMAL,-0.4143,0.4152,0.55
.400      =FEAT/PLANE,RECT,TRIANGLE
            THEO/0,0.0062,0.3999,-0.0000384,-0.0000132,1
            ACTL/0.0001,0.0064,0.4,-0.0000374,-0.0000394,1
            MEAS/PLANE,4
            HIT/BASIC,NORMAL,-0.525,0,0.3998,-0.0000384,-0.0000132,1,-0.525,0,0.3999,USE THEO = YES
            MOVE/POINT,NORMAL,-0.3835,-0.3762,0.45
            HIT/BASIC,NORMAL,0,-0.5,0.3998,-0.0000384,-0.0000132,1,0.0003,-0.4999,0.3999,USE THEO = YES
            MOVE/POINT,NORMAL,0.3231,-0.4412,0.45
            HIT/BASIC,NORMAL,0.525,0,0.3999,-0.0000384,-0.0000132,1,0.5253,0.0003,0.4,USE THEO = YES
            MOVE/POINT,NORMAL,0.4967,0.3366,0.45
            HIT/BASIC,NORMAL,0,0.525,0.3999,-0.0000384,-0.0000132,1,0,0.5251,0.4,USE THEO = YES
            ENDMEAS/
            MOVE/POINT,NORMAL,0.4889,0.3129,0.5
            MOVE/POINT,NORMAL,0.7202,0,0.5
1.174    =FEAT/CIRCLE,RECT,OUT,LEAST_SQR
            THEO/0,0,0.25,0,0,1,1.1742
            ACTL/0,-0.0001,0.2501,0,0,1,1.1744
            MEAS/CIRCLE,5,WORKPLANE
            HIT/BASIC,NORMAL,0.5872,0,0.2498,1,0.0000735,0,0.5871,0.0002,0.2499,USE THEO = YES
            MOVE/CIRCULAR
            HIT/BASIC,NORMAL,0,0.587,0.25,-0.0001266,1,0,-0.0005,0.5873,0.2503,USE THEO = YES
            MOVE/CIRCULAR
            HIT/BASIC,NORMAL,-0.587,-0.0003,0.2502,-0.9999999,-0.0004037,0,-0.587,-0.0004,0.2504,USE THEO = YES
            MOVE/CIRCULAR
            HIT/BASIC,NORMAL,-0.2984,-0.5057,0.25,-0.50826,-0.8612037,0,-0.2979,-0.5062,0.2498,USE THEO = YES
            MOVE/CIRCULAR
            HIT/BASIC,NORMAL,0.2977,-0.5059,0.2499,0.5070969,-0.8618891,0,0.2981,-0.5061,0.2501,USE THEO = YES
            ENDMEAS/
            MOVE/POINT,NORMAL,0,-0.65,0.3
.1245-2  =FEAT/CIRCLE,RECT,IN,LEAST_SQR
            THEO/-0.001,-0.5866,0.3001,0,0,1,0.1257
            ACTL/-0.0009,-0.5872,0.3001,0,0,1,0.1265
            MEAS/CIRCLE,5,WORKPLANE
            HIT/BASIC,NORMAL,-0.0497,-0.5468,0.3002,0.7744432,-0.6326434,0,-0.0493,-0.5465,0.3001,USE THEO = YES
            HIT/BASIC,NORMAL,0.0487,-0.5483,0.3,-0.792257,-0.6101876,0,0.0489,-0.5482,0.3,USE THEO = YES
            HIT/BASIC,NORMAL,0.0288,-0.5312,0.2998,-0.474432,-0.8802921,0,0.0291,-0.5315,0.2997,USE THEO = YES
            HIT/BASIC,NORMAL,-0.0303,-0.5311,0.3002,0.4665629,-0.884488,0,-0.03,-0.531,0.3005,USE THEO = YES
            HIT/BASIC,NORMAL,-0.0006,-0.5237,0.3001,-0.0067344,-0.9999773,0,-0.0007,-0.5239,0.3004,USE THEO = YES
            ENDMEAS/
            MOVE/POINT,NORMAL,-0.0009,-0.5863,0.8
I'm having a problem with starting the scan. I'm not sure how to set it up correctly.

Could you help me?
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]]> PC-DMIS for CMMs Crazy Man! http://www.pcdmisforum.com/showthread.php?22211-Scanning-a-cone-for-a-Surfuce-Profile-callout. Position of Tooling Points http://www.pcdmisforum.com/showthread.php?22210-Position-of-Tooling-Points&goto=newpost Wed, 16 May 2012 20:30:56 GMT Ok, this is goin to be hard to explain but here goes. we have made a part that the customer is complaining about the way it mounts in their... Ok, this is goin to be hard to explain but here goes.

we have made a part that the customer is complaining about the way it mounts in their machining fixture. It has 3 tooling points on the Datum A surface and the part is apparantly slightly warped and the 3 tooling points on the part, and not contacting the fixture tooling dowels evenly. They claim 0.020" of play.

We now want to check the distance between the tooling points so production crew can "fix" the part!

I have went about this a couple of different ways. First I took hits for the tooling points on the aligned part. Then I chose Tooling point #1 and made it a datum, and then did a True Position measurement between the datum point and the other 2 Tooling Points. That gave me so much data that i wasn't sure what i was looking at.

So then I just pulled the simple linear dimention in the axis that I was concerned about, and that gave me distances between the points, but they of course are POSITIVE numbers.. and I need to be able to tell if the measured point is higher or lower than the datum point so the production people know how to "FIX" the part!

Do you guys/gals have any suggestion on an easier way, or how to get positive/negitive dimensions from the Linear dim process?

Sam ]]> PC-DMIS for CMMs SAM-IMC http://www.pcdmisforum.com/showthread.php?22210-Position-of-Tooling-Points sorting options http://www.pcdmisforum.com/showthread.php?22207-sorting-options&goto=newpost Wed, 16 May 2012 19:09:56 GMT hi,

I'm new to Blade, what do the different sorting options (full/simple) do when you covert a text file? ]]> PC-DMIS Blade Inspection cappy6124 http://www.pcdmisforum.com/showthread.php?22207-sorting-options