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Jonathan S
03-03-2006, 06:40 PM
I forgot, do you mirror a program by machine axes or part axes?:confused: And shouldn't PC-DMIS mirror the tip angles as well?
Schrocknroll
03-03-2006, 07:25 PM
I'm pretty sure that it is by machine axes. The part axes can change with your alignment, so it would be the axes as they are in the startup alignment.
Matthew D. Hoedeman
03-06-2006, 07:37 AM
It is part axis, if the part is automotive L to R, then it should be a Y axis mirror. You can mirror it by machine axis, but then you may (or may not) have the wrong axis reporting as a negative to match the actual, real world position of the part.
Rick Coleman
03-06-2006, 08:43 AM
I've had mixed results on tip angles when mirroring. Sometimes not all will mirror correctly. Usually the angles not mirrored correctly are hilighted in red and there will be a warning about undefined/uncalibrated tip rotations.
Mr.Natural
03-06-2006, 08:47 AM
As far as the tip angles when you mirror a pgm PC Dmis does a **** poor job of morroring them. i have a small Excel file that works great, plug in the tip angle from the original pgm & it will give you the exact mirror angle. Why Wilcox couldn't incorporate this into PC Dmis is beyond me. Give it a try it works great, file attached. Sorry guys, i couldn't attach a .xls extension here. if ya want it PM me & i'll e-mail it to ya.
I should have mentioned that i am using a Renshaw PHS1 wrist, don't know if this will make a diffrence.
Andrew Gardner
03-06-2006, 10:05 AM
If the part axis and the cad axis match, PC-DMIS does a decent job of rotating the tip angle after mirroring. Still, I always go back and double check. Even after that, I run the first part real slow in case I missed one.
Matthew D. Hoedeman
03-06-2006, 10:19 AM
The only tim eI have ever had Pcdmis mirror the tip angles correctly was when the mirror CAD axis (WITHOUT needing to set the machine to cad axis) matched the machine axis AND matched the axis the tips mirror in. Basically, on my machine, the CAD X axis must match the machine X axis and the mirror MUST be in the X axis (90,-90 is X- direction and 90,90 is X+ direction). At no other time have the angles mirrored correctly. It does not help even if you already have the mirror angles calibrated, if all 3 do not match, the angles do not mirror correctly. And, since Y is the automotive mirror axis, it never works for me, except the one time I had to mirror a non-automotive part and it did sit X to X.
kbotta
03-06-2006, 10:48 AM
What Matt said....
kpayne
03-06-2006, 01:40 PM
:) I have found if I am offline and all the tips required in mirrored program are present in probe file eveything works fine.
Paul Barriage
03-07-2006, 08:27 AM
The actual program mirror needs to be in part axis.
9 times out of 10, the probe angles DO NOT mirror correctly.
Probe angle mirror should come from the fixture/part relation to the machine
\v/inston
03-07-2006, 08:53 AM
if you have a tip angle, that you want use and it is marked in red, open the Probe Utilities and hit mark used and it will add the tip with an *asterisk next to it.
sleepyhead
08-07-2007, 12:52 AM
Hi guys,dad and my uncle got this small time car shop that sells car parts and accessories. But as of now they got a shortage for mirrors. And they gave me this responsibility to look for a store that sell in bulks and in a cheaper price. And here's what I need:
Pontiac Mirrors (http://www.autopartsdeal.com/pontiac/mirrors.html)
Suzuki Mirrors (http://www.autopartsdeal.com/suzuki/mirrors.html)
Toyota Mirrors (http://www.autopartsdeal.com/toyota/mirrors.html)
Volkswagen Mirrors (http://www.autopartsdeal.com/volkswagen/mirrors.html)
Need help with this. Thanks. :cool:
dwade
08-07-2007, 08:17 AM
I've had mixed results on tip angles when mirroring. Sometimes not all will mirror correctly. Usually the angles not mirrored correctly are hilighted in red and there will be a warning about undefined/uncalibrated tip rotations.
Hey Rick! On that CMM (if you are still on the DEA and running V3.5MR2) it always does that. I could never get the probes to mirror right. I always printed out my probes in the original program then after making the mirror I woudl go back and edit the probes.
How's business going up there?
Duane
Goodluck
08-07-2007, 10:44 AM
Hi guys,dad and my uncle got this small time car shop that sells car parts and accessories. But as of now they got a shortage for mirrors. And they gave me this responsibility to look for a store that sell in bulks and in a cheaper price. And here's what I need:
Pontiac Mirrors (http://www.autopartsdeal.com/pontiac/mirrors.html)
Suzuki Mirrors (http://www.autopartsdeal.com/suzuki/mirrors.html)
Toyota Mirrors (http://www.autopartsdeal.com/toyota/mirrors.html)
Volkswagen Mirrors (http://www.autopartsdeal.com/volkswagen/mirrors.html)
Need help with this. Thanks. :cool:
Whoa, now we're getting spammers who revive threads. What fun!:mad:
craiger_ny
08-07-2007, 11:51 AM
Hi guys,dad and my uncle got this small time car shop that sells car parts and accessories. But as of now they got a shortage for mirrors. And they gave me this responsibility to look for a store that sell in bulks and in a cheaper price. And here's what I need:
Pontiac Mirrors (http://www.autopartsdeal.com/pontiac/mirrors.html)
Suzuki Mirrors (http://www.autopartsdeal.com/suzuki/mirrors.html)
Toyota Mirrors (http://www.autopartsdeal.com/toyota/mirrors.html)
Volkswagen Mirrors (http://www.autopartsdeal.com/volkswagen/mirrors.html)
Need help with this. Thanks. :cool:
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